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Report this May. 07 2011, 2:18 am

I put what I thought was the best friendship from each of the different series.
Kirk - Spock: This is (what I have been led to believe) generally the fan-favourite relationship. I loved some of the scenes... especially when McCoy was thrown in too. But I often found their friendship a bit distant and formal... I'd even go as far as to say a little cold. They had some great scenes... but it seems a bit formal. I've thought that its possible that this is because of the distance between the Shatner and the rest of the cast (including Nimoy) at the start. I think the best scene for this pair is in "The Undiscovered Country" when Spock talks to Kirk about their age and uselessness... that was good because by then Shatner and Nimoy were mates, I believe.
Data - Geordi: This was an interesting friendship, imo. An android and a blind man. I think Geordi really helped Data discover and come as close to humanity as he possibly could. I think the best scene for these blokes was in TNGs1: "11001001", 'A blind man teaching an android how to paint, thats gotta be worth a page in somebody's book!' --- Commander Riker.
Bashir - O'Brien: These guys were whatchacall 'real mates'... it was like, "Hey man" "Heya bro" "Hows ya' day bin?" "Oh yea... pretty good, ay...". Which is a typical male friendship. I loved how the friendship evolved from O'Brien hating Bashir to them being best mates. Best scene for these guys is in DS9s3: "Explorers" when they're drunk, singing 'Jeruselm' and talking about Bashir's experience with Dr. Lense.
Paris - Kim: This was a similar to the Bashir/O'Brien friendship. Both of the pairs tended to do things with each other in holodecks... and both seemed like real relationships. Their best scene was, any of the scenes in the holodeck when playing Captain Proton... those were classic episodes and scenes!
Archer - Trip: This is a friendship. Thats all I have to say. They're mates, they have been for ages. Thats about it. They have lots of scenes, none were the best though.


I'm going with Bashir - O'Brien... closely followed by Kirk - Spock.

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Report this May. 07 2011, 3:36 am

Need ask??


Nah-- Bashir and O'Brien were fantastic together; Being mates and messing around and "playing with toys" as Worf put it, and giving each other ribbings and finishing each other's sentences all the time. Couple of nerds. Makes me smile. I can't think of a single dud moment when they were doing their friend-stuff on the screen.


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Report this May. 07 2011, 5:09 am

How can you compare nonentities like Bashir and O'Brien whom most of the world have never heard of with Kirk and Spock - whom the entire planet surely has?


There is a difference between being chummy pals (B & O'B) and what passed between Kirk and Spock. Spock sacrificed his life to save the ship. Spock was always there for Kirk. Kirk apparently laid down his life for Spock (Amok Time) and later nearly lost his career trying to save his friend's katra and ultimately his life and soul too.


No - when it comes to what friendship is really all about it is Kirk, Spock ... and McCoy of course ... family


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Report this May. 07 2011, 5:11 am

Quote: Ghostmojo @ May. 07 2011, 5:09 am

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>How can you compare nonentities like Bashir and O'Brien whom most of the world have never hear of with Kirk and Spock - whom the entire panet surely has?

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Easy peezy. Just did.


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Report this May. 07 2011, 10:02 am

i voted for DATA and Geordi simply cuz DATA didn't know what friendship was and Geordi was a loner outcast. For them both it was their first real friendship.


At the end of Nemisis when Geordi was the one who opened the forcefield, he knew DATA wouldn't come back. the transporters were down and the emergency transport device only worked for one person. That makes me cry everytime i see it.


but I also liked Paris and Kim's friendship. Two completely different people. WOW.


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Report this May. 07 2011, 12:28 pm

Kirk and Spock seem the obvious choice, just because the entire original show (plus the original cast movies) was focused on the friendship between Kirk, Spock and (perhaps to a slightly lesser extent) McCoy.  I don't think that can be said for any of the other friendships in any of the other shows.


I'd say the most important, focused-upon relationships in the other shows I've seen were Picard-Data, Janeway-Seven, and Archer-T'Pol, and none of those were exactly friendships.  The closest thing to a frienship was Archer's with T'Pol, but that took some time to develop and was always tinged with a different kind of erotic tension.  Nevertheless, I think Archer's relationship with T'Pol was more important to their show than either character's relationship to Trip, and I think Archer and T'Pol may have had Star Trek's second best friendship, after Kirk and Spock, perhaps because the one was so obviously modelled on the other, and because Archer and T'Pol's friendship was more of a central focus to the show than some of the other friendships, because it involved the captain.


I don't think any of the friendships in The Next Generation were memorable.  Certain characters were more likely to be in each other's space than others, but none of them really seemed like friends to me.  I think there was so much emphasis placed on making all of the characters even tempered and nice to everyone that no one seemed to have a particularly rewarding relationship with anyone.  I think the problem was the generally bland characterization in that show.


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Report this May. 08 2011, 3:10 am

Sulu and Chekov were also supposed to be chums. It is debatable about how well this worked given their respective times at helm and navigation desk, but that lighthearted, jokey relationship has become part of the folklore - Sulu and Chekov, Chekov and Sulu ... like Laurel and Hardy, Abbot and Costello etc.

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Report this May. 08 2011, 6:54 am

Kirk and Spock...all the way.


 


Bashir and O'Brien were also fun to watch, but they are buddies. Kirk and Spock are brothers from two different worlds, and there's no comparison.

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Report this May. 08 2011, 3:01 pm

Miles and Julian where on a show about growth and the exploration of the people, and this allowed for some serious digging on the parts of the writers. No disrespect to Kirk and Spock, but their show was all about "mission solved, tune in next week" and didn't allow for as much depth and character development.

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Report this May. 08 2011, 3:50 pm

The best friendship was definitely between Kirk and Spock. They were truly family.


I also think that the friendship between the both of them and McCoy was just as strong. McCoy acting as the protaganist, and the grumpy old man really was the devil on their shoulder who offered the kind hand and comfort or a kick in the ass of an elder brother. 

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Report this May. 08 2011, 7:47 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ May. 08 2011, 6:54 am

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>Kirk and Spock...all the way.

>Bashir and O'Brien were also fun to watch, but they are buddies. Kirk and Spock are brothers from two different worlds, and there's no comparison.

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Abso-friggen-lutely, V'Ger!  Well put!


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Report this May. 08 2011, 7:52 pm

Quote: captainroe @ May. 08 2011, 3:50 pm

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>The best friendship was definitely between Kirk and Spock. They were truly family.

>I also think that the friendship between the both of them and McCoy was just as strong. McCoy acting as the protaganist, and the grumpy old man really was the devil on their shoulder who offered the kind hand and comfort or a kick in the ass of an elder brother. 

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You're right.  The greatest friendship in the entire franchise is Kirk-Spock-McCoy.  None of the spin-offs, despite some very good friendships (i.e. O'Brian-Bashir is really fun, but Data-Geordi and Paris-Kim never really interested me.  They just seemed very contrived and forced), have ever been able to replicate that.  Jonathan Frakes lamented the fact that the TNG writers just didn't create such a dynamic between Picard, Riker, and Data.


I really hope that the next film puts this friendship front and center.  At the end of ST XI, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy respect each other, but they're not the brothers they would become (although Kirk and McCoy are alreayd buddies).  I hope that we see that trinity happen.  Maybe we will see it begin.  I also hope that Orci, Lindelof, and Kurtzmann don't forget that McCoy is part of that friendship. 


 


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Report this May. 08 2011, 7:56 pm

Quote: rocketscientist @ May. 08 2011, 7:47 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ May. 08 2011, 6:54 am

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>Kirk and Spock...all the way.

>Bashir and O'Brien were also fun to watch, but they are buddies. Kirk and Spock are brothers from two different worlds, and there's no comparison.

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Abso-friggen-lutely, V'Ger!  Well put!

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Report this May. 09 2011, 1:38 am

Oh man.... I have always just been in love with the Doctor/7 thing. I was so disappointed that they didn't do anything with that after "Someone to Watch Over Me"!!!!!

But anyway, I don't think you can beat the Kirk/Spock relationship, even thought I definitely don't consider myself a "Spirker". Even though there may have been some tiny hints at a romantic relationship, they are only there if you look for them, which I don't. So despite all that, I never saw a romantic relationship, just really good friends, like Data and Geordi.

Also, good breaking down of all those characters, iBorg!!!! Fun to read. ;)

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Report this May. 09 2011, 6:35 am

Good friendships there but none can compare to the classic kirk and spock. They were like brothers.

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