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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 6:38 am

D. My final answer Regis!


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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 6:54 am

Meh, I think A is far more inflammatory.

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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 8:35 am

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Yes, but not as stupid, never ending, or irresolvable. The answer must be inclusive of all these characteristics.


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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 8:36 am

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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 9:52 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Jun. 03 2011, 8:35 am

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Yes, but not as stupid, never ending, or irresolvable. The answer must be inclusive of all these characteristics.


That's true.  Time and again issue A has been resolved with New York as the victor, so that eliminates one entire factor.  However, you could argue that this factored into its never-ending nature makes the argument even more stupid.


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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 6:47 pm

E: Complaints about poll topics.


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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 7:12 pm

I wonder if the diminishment of religion on the star trek series could be attributed to the old tradition on man-of-war vessels of not discussing religion or politics while at the captain's table.  The fact is that both subjects can be deeply divisive, while not producing any useful outcome for the people discussing them.


On those ships the crew's lives depended on each other and they knew it.  I think one of the reasons current American politics is so virulent is that we think we don't need each other. 


I really suspect consciously or not Rodenberry and later writers drew on the societies of those early seafarers whose isolation was somewhat similar to what spacefarers would experience.


 

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Report this Jun. 03 2011, 8:30 pm

Hadn't thought of it that way, but interesting analogy and food for thought. Cheers.


One problem however is that Star Trek purports to have shown a shift away from religious belief in the Federation. (particularly on Earth) not just in the isolation of a Starship.


But Roddenberry's family does have a military background, so he would almost certainly have been familiar with that tradition.


It really is a shame that the subject of religion so often turns inflammatory, as it is an interesting subject. And even atheists really can't get away from their cultural / religious heritage. In turning away from religion, an atheist still is turning away from something.


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Report this Jun. 04 2011, 9:38 am

The way to eden.

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Report this Sep. 07 2011, 9:29 am

So Picard may not be religious but he is spiritual and believes in an afterlife. I was watching "Where Silence Has Lease." There Picard tells Nagilum (posing as Data), ". . . That what we are goes beyond Euclidean or other practical measuring systems and our existence is part of a reality beyond what we understand now as reality."

I found this interesting because I didn't expect it from Picard.

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Report this Sep. 11 2011, 9:36 am



I think its funny that some people in here belive that just becuase some belive in God, Buddha, or Allah that we are just a bunch backwater redneck hicks. When Trek is suppose to teach acceptance and tolerance of others belives. I guess that doesnt apply to people that belive in God. I guess Trek is not so Tolerant after all.



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Report this Sep. 11 2011, 5:18 pm

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I was about to say, "Trek is tolerant; fans are not..." As in, How dare you say that Picard is a better captain than Kirk!! Burn, HERETIC!!!!!!


But I was thinking about some of the things that actually happen in Trek, and I'm not sure that even that is 100% true. 80% true, perhaps. But........


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Report this Sep. 12 2011, 12:03 pm

I think Trek believes there is more to the universe than we can understand. It encourages open mindedness on many levels. However, I believe Roddenberry had stated he didn't foresee humans having organized religion in his future.

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