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Ghostmojo

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Report this Jun. 05 2011, 4:43 am

Yes - but she had to deal with somebody else's villains and stories rather than her own ... my teacher analogy holds true - those that can - do, those that can't - teach!!!


Perhaps Servalan would have done better?

Lewis00069

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Report this Jun. 05 2011, 5:18 am

Has to be Kirk

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 4:32 am

trekgurl54

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 10:07 am

It's tough being captain no matter who you are. Every part of space has different species(good & bad), different anomolies, also depended on what quadrant your flying thru. Janeway was in the Delta quadrant, where no other earth vessel had been. She came up against some really nasty characters, especially the Borg. But she and the crew got thru it elimanting the Borg Queen once & for all!!!!! But again, each captain & crew came up against different odds, and in the end....succeded.

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 12:43 pm

 


 


SERVALAN FAN, usually you and I are on the same page but you're wrong this time, VERY VERY WRONG..Picard and his CREW DEFEATED the the Borg SEVERAL TIMES, Best of Both Worlds PART 2, he could had DESTROYED MILLIONS OF THEM IN "I BORG", the Borg were DEFEATED BY Picard and his crew in "DESCENT PART 2" AND "FIRST CONTACT" which is the greatest Star Trek movie EVER.

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 7:39 pm

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Jun. 06 2011, 12:43 pm

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> AND "FIRST CONTACT" which is the greatest Star Trek movie EVER.

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Nope.


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2takesfrakes

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Report this Jun. 06 2011, 8:01 pm

YES!!! Thanks to Jonathan Frakes' directorial vision ...


FIRST CONTACT is one of STAR TREK's greatest success stories.


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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 12:19 am

Quote: jamesspock1 @ May. 04 2011, 2:06 pm

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>Original Kirk, he's not afraid bend the prime derective when nessesary to attain the needs.

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Same here.


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Vger23

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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 4:53 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Jun. 06 2011, 8:01 pm

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>YES!!! Thanks to Jonathan Frakes' directorial vision ...

>FIRST CONTACT is one of STAR TREK's greatest success stories.

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I love you in a manly, hetro, "let's talk about chicks and Star Trek" kind of way Frakes, but I think saying "FC is one of ST's greatest success stories" is a bit of an exaggeration.


Adjusted for inflation, Star Trek: First Contact is the #5 box-office winner behind 2009, TMP, TVH, TWOK, and TSFS. True, it was a very good film and certainly the crown-jewel of the TNG films...but it isn't one of Trek's greatest successes.


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2takesfrakes

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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 5:37 am

"I love you too, man!"


But, like the family dog, Muttley ... if you were going
to give him Human Food, you'd bury it in, with his Alpo.
But he'd have none of it. With that mighty snout of his,
he'd push that dry-assed dog food aside and get right to
the hamburger ...


So, to knock one of STAR TREK's greatest visionaries,
and/or his product(s), is a dish I want not! No matter
how buried it is in Alpo. I'll get right to the burger!!!


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Report this Jun. 07 2011, 3:20 pm

This is an unfair voting poll because you can't group Janway and Archer with anyone eles because they went through the most un-known situations everyone eles had starfleet at its peek of strength therefor the best captain cannot be chosen from this group. My reason stands because between Janeway and Archer to me Janeway became more aprochable as a friend and captain she became a mother figuar to the younger crew such as Harry kim. Archer (though i have not look at much Enterprise) i found more Captain oriented than wanting a more personal relationship with his crew. Now between the left over captains (Sisko, Picard, and Kirk) Picard would be my favorite. Sisko i just could not connect with,and kirk thought with his fist and not his mind at all times and that is why McCoy and Spock out lived him. so now that i have narrowed down the competion picard is the only one left, Yes he was a private man and Yes he was not the most adveturous or attractive captains but he did his job well and efficently and with a certain class only two other captains had His heart in what he did he believed very strongley in the federation but knew when to cross the line because of nessecity to protect that same Federation.


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Report this Jun. 08 2011, 7:56 am

OK...


 


I have to get this out there...


WHY do so many people stereotype Kirk as a person who "solves problems with his fists and not his mind?" REALLY? Do you guys actually watch the show, or do you just listen to the rhetoric and stereotypes?


1. Kirk regularly beat Spock at three-dimensional chess. He was a Starfleet captain at a time when the duty was much more independant and MUCH more reliant upon individual skill becuase of the time it took to communicate with HQ. He was obviously a hightly intelligent, thoughtful man.


2. Kirk was the youngest captain in starfleet history. You don't get that position because you're brash, good-looking, impulsive and good in a brawl. Christ!


3. Kirk never resorted to violence as a first measure, but he was also strong enough to understand when force was necessary.


4. How many COUNTLESS times did Kirk OUTWIT an enemy / being / computer deity rather than just being a blunt instrument? Pretty much every episode was about Kirk out-thinking an opponent or tricking his way out of a situation. Just because he was more of a physical, active presence doesn't automatically mean that everytime an alien threat shows up, his first instinct was to simply punch it in the face. Think about the restraint and thoughtfulness he showed in "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Star Trek-The Motion Picture." Those are just TWO examples of the type of behavior and thoughtfullness that Kirk regularly exhibited as a Starfleet captain. 


I find it ridiculous that people constantly call Picard "the thinking man's captain" simply because he was not a physical person and not likely to get into the action himself. Other than that, I find the methods, intellect and general command attitude of these two men to be rather similar. In fact. I think arguments could be drawn from canon evidence that Kirk is actually a more intelligent man than Picard.

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Report this Jun. 08 2011, 7:59 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Jun. 08 2011, 7:56 am

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>OK...

>I have to get this out there...

>WHY do so many people stereotype Kirk as a person who "solves problems with his fists and not his mind?" REALLY? Do you guys actually watch the show, or do you just listen to the rhetoric and stereotypes?

>1. Kirk regularly beat Spock at three-dimensional chess. He was a Starfleet captain at a time when the duty was much more independant and MUCH more reliant upon individual skill becuase of the time it took to communicate with HQ. He was obviously a hightly intelligent, thoughtful man.

>2. Kirk was the youngest captain in starfleet history. You don't get that position because you're brash, good-looking, impulsive and good in a brawl. Christ!

>3. Kirk never resorted to violence as a first measure, but he was also strong enough to understand when force was necessary.

>4. How many COUNTLESS times did Kirk OUTWIT an enemy / being / computer deity rather than just being a blunt instrument? Pretty much every episode was about Kirk out-thinking an opponent or tricking his way out of a situation. Just because he was more of a physical, active presence doesn't automatically mean that everytime an alien threat shows up, his first instinct was to simply punch it in the face. Think about the restraint and thoughtfulness he showed in "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Star Trek-The Motion Picture." Those are just TWO examples of the type of behavior and thoughtfullness that Kirk regularly exhibited as a Starfleet captain. 

>I find it ridiculous that people constantly call Picard "the thinking man's captain" simply because he was not a physical person and not likely to get into the action himself. Other than that, I find the methods, intellect and general command attitude of these two men to be rather similar. In fact. I think arguments could be drawn from canon evidence that Kirk is actually a more intelligent man than Picard.

>


Very very well put, amigo. 


 


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Report this Jun. 08 2011, 10:43 am

Quote: rocketscientist @ Jun. 08 2011, 7:59 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Jun. 08 2011, 7:56 am

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>OK...

>I have to get this out there...

>WHY do so many people stereotype Kirk as a person who "solves problems with his fists and not his mind?" REALLY? Do you guys actually watch the show, or do you just listen to the rhetoric and stereotypes?

>1. Kirk regularly beat Spock at three-dimensional chess. He was a Starfleet captain at a time when the duty was much more independant and MUCH more reliant upon individual skill becuase of the time it took to communicate with HQ. He was obviously a hightly intelligent, thoughtful man.

>2. Kirk was the youngest captain in starfleet history. You don't get that position because you're brash, good-looking, impulsive and good in a brawl. Christ!

>3. Kirk never resorted to violence as a first measure, but he was also strong enough to understand when force was necessary.

>4. How many COUNTLESS times did Kirk OUTWIT an enemy / being / computer deity rather than just being a blunt instrument? Pretty much every episode was about Kirk out-thinking an opponent or tricking his way out of a situation. Just because he was more of a physical, active presence doesn't automatically mean that everytime an alien threat shows up, his first instinct was to simply punch it in the face. Think about the restraint and thoughtfulness he showed in "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Star Trek-The Motion Picture." Those are just TWO examples of the type of behavior and thoughtfullness that Kirk regularly exhibited as a Starfleet captain. 

>I find it ridiculous that people constantly call Picard "the thinking man's captain" simply because he was not a physical person and not likely to get into the action himself. Other than that, I find the methods, intellect and general command attitude of these two men to be rather similar. In fact. I think arguments could be drawn from canon evidence that Kirk is actually a more intelligent man than Picard.

>

Very very well put, amigo. 

 


 


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Report this Jun. 08 2011, 5:57 pm

While I've never made an experiment of actually
comparing the Captains, I do know that Kirk took
an entire television, animated series AND one whole
movie, before he ever had to surrender ...


Jean Luc, on the other hand, surrendered after the
first commercial of NEXT GENERATION's first episode.
But it worked out just fine. Picard functioned well as
Master of his vessel from FARPOINT STATION onward,
and I never looked back. Jean Luc Picard is The Best.


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