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who do you think the next films enemy is going to be.

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CAPT.LEW

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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 12:41 pm

i don't think it's going to be khan cause they have not encountered him yet.


i\I'm thinking a klingon possibly KOR KANG OR KOLOTH!


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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 12:59 pm

not khan cause they overuse him.

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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 1:52 pm

The Crystalline Entity! J/K


 



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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 3:27 pm

I'd like a klingon


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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 4:16 pm

An android of course!
Nahhhhhh ;D

I have to agree with wissa id like to see a badddd butt klingon!


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Report this Apr. 28 2011, 5:27 pm

I actually hope no one is the bad guy/enemy in the next one.  When you think about it, many Star Trek stories don't revolve around bad guys and antagonists, including several of the original cast Star Trek movies (The Motion Picture, IV, V--even VI wasn't really about one villainous antagonist with a personal vendetta--it just seems that way because Chang is so cool).  But it seems like all the newer Star Trek movies (the Next Generation cast movies and Abrams') have been about villains and (to a lesser degree) about vengeance.  I think that's the result of the excellent Star Trek revenge story, The Wrath of Khan, which unfortunately is easier to copy than it is to equal.  Don't misunderstand me.  I like all the newer Star Trek movies.  I just want to see a different kind of story, this time around, for the sake of novelty and all the creativity that attends novelty.


If there have to be antagonists, I think Romulans would make the most sense, given the shambles and chaos Federation-Romulan relations must be in, in Nero's wake.


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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 4:39 am

More then a single character or alien from TOS being used, I'd like to seeing something along the lines that despite coming from different backgrounds and changed history, that some of these characters will have the same fate with unavoidable destinies.


A previously seen villain or idea could be used in a more creative way not seen before to lead us to this conclusion., but a totally new villain or idea can also be used to the same end.

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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 7:04 am

Quote: Six of Nine @ Apr. 28 2011, 12:59 pm

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>not khan cause they overuse him.

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I'm not in favor of Khan either, but how is he "overused?" He was in one episode and one movie. He's actually been on screen FAR less than most other popular Trek villians (Q, Borg Queen, Kor, Dukat, etc).


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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 7:06 am

We have met the enemy...and it is us.

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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 7:20 am

I didn't actually have Khan in mind, not even as a good guy, but that could be a new twist to the character.


But I am kind of thinking more of Captain Pike. While he never went to Talos 4 in the new time line, his destiny is the same, he ends up horribly disfigured and a new adventures leads him in the care of the Keeper.

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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 9:33 am

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>See before the Borg were personified in VOY I thought they were a much scarier enemy IMO. The story was about how Picard dealt with his actions as a Borg, how Picard's crew tried to save him. It wasn't about the Borg queen then and how the Borg civilisation worked.


I agree, but I blame First Contact for personifying the Borg and turning the Queen into yet another personal nemesis for Starfleet captains.


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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 9:39 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Apr. 29 2011, 7:04 am

Quote: Six of Nine @ Apr. 28 2011, 12:59 pm

>not khan cause they overuse him.
I'm not in favor of Khan either, but how is he "overused?" He was in one episode and one movie. He's actually been on screen FAR less than most other popular Trek villians (Q, Borg Queen, Kor, Dukat, etc).


Personally, Khan hasn't been used much, but the shadow of his influence looms large over some (lesser, in my opinion) subsequent Star Trek villains--Shinzon and Nero obviously (though the part of Nero was acted so well that I still kind of like the character), and to a lesser extent, I see shades of Khan and his vengeance in the guys from Generations and Insurrection, and even a little bit in the Borg Queen.  Arguably, the last two Star Trek movies we got were different kinds of rewrites of The Wrath of Khan, so if Khan himself shows up in the next one, it's going to feel kind of repetitive to me.


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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 9:54 am

wouldnt it be interesting if the humans were the enemy? like someone trying to sabatoge starfleet from the inside, making deals with enemy species and such.


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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 11:01 pm

Quote: Caalma @ Apr. 29 2011, 9:54 am

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>wouldnt it be interesting if the humans were the enemy? like someone trying to sabatoge starfleet from the inside, making deals with enemy species and such.

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That sounds a little like TUC. or maybe section 31. Perhaps they could explore an early version them, if they weren't too afraid of using them again.


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Report this Apr. 30 2011, 1:41 am

Quote: Blockman @ Apr. 29 2011, 11:01 pm

Quote: Caalma @ Apr. 29 2011, 9:54 am

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>wouldnt it be interesting if the humans were the enemy? like someone trying to sabatoge starfleet from the inside, making deals with enemy species and such.

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That sounds a little like TUC. or maybe section 31. Perhaps they could explore an early version them, if they weren't too afraid of using them again.

Well, there was an early version of Section 31 in ENTs4... I think including them would be boss as! But that would appeal more to fans, coz they know the history of Section 31. If they did include them, they would have to re-introduce them to the audience and make little or no references to previous appearences.
The new movie was boss, but it was, and the next ones will be, for general audience just as much as the fans. (I hope that sentence made sense). So they got to make it understandable for the general audience, they can't make too many references to obscure parts of Trek that the public won't know about. Such as Section 31.
In some ways making it more of a 'mainstream' thing is good, because it gives the franchise money to make a new series (PLEASE) or something like that... in some ways its bad coz us fans like little references here and there. I don't know 'bout other fans but I also like it all to create one big story, so seeing recurring things (such as characters, aliens, etc) is what 'does it' for me...
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