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Why Star Trek 2009 sucked

WkdYngMan

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 5:46 pm

I can recite the film by heart, and just finished watching it yet again when I began this thread. My recollection of the events of the film are spot on.


Your recollection isn't.  First you say the film ENDS as an alternate reality.  If you can "recite it" then you would be able to recite the part on the bridge where Spock says that the alternate reality started when Nero attacked the "Kelvin" (which was the very first scene of the film.)  Then you claimed that the Romulus destruction takes place Pre-Nemesis.  Do you admit that your time was off on this?


I don't dislike the film, only the inconsistencies in it,


This is the VERY first thing you said in this thread.


The newest movie (Star Trek 2009) was ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE,


So you think it "sucks" and think it's "absolutely horrible" but you don't dislike it and apparently have watched it so much that you supposedly can recite it?  Yeah, no contradictions there.

___Lucifer___

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 5:51 pm

It just tickles me that folks freak out about continuity like the characters' lives depend on it.



Treknoir

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 5:59 pm

Quote: ___Lucifer___ @ Apr. 24 2011, 5:51 pm

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>It just tickles me that folks freak out about continuity like the characters' lives depend on it.

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LOL


Canon sacrilege! Must protect CANON!



It is curious how often you humans manage to obtain that which you do not want. - Spock

WkdYngMan

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 6:01 pm

GRRRR, the Goddenberry Vision is destroyed!

Treknoir

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 6:13 pm

Quote: WkdYngMan @ Apr. 24 2011, 6:01 pm

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>GRRRR, the Goddenberry Vision is destroyed!

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


1 Romulithians 6:3


For Goddenberry so loved the world that he gave us ST and it was good. Do not depart from canon for it leads to utter doomdem and despair. Those who follow the deceiver, Abrams, shall be cast into a lake of rabid tribbles and ceti eels for about a week. Maybe two. Those who keep his commandments shall bathe in the glorious light of the next convention in Vegas.


Pause and reflect upon that.


 


It is curious how often you humans manage to obtain that which you do not want. - Spock

jillie_girl

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 7:00 pm

I will agree in saying that it did not add up to what happens in TOS episodes. But I don't think that ruins the entire movie, it was still good. Another thing I noticed is that Spock's mother dies, when she is in some of the episodes. I don't want to start a fight here, it is just my opinion.

___Lucifer___

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 7:13 pm

^^ The entire movie takes place in an alternate timeline, so none of the TOS episodes or characters are affected. Except for Spock Prime, he's obviously in the alternate timeline now. I wonder if he'll ever make it home.


ColPeg

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 7:41 pm

I wouldn't have minded if JJ and the rest would have had somebody else from Vulcan would have been in Starfleet and Spock sought the path his Father wanted him to goto instead of Starfleet.  Maybe THAT Vulcan would have accepted Uhura's touch.  Just because there was a wormhole that would change many events following it, doesn't mean Spock would have allowed being touched.  This is one of the many constants that a worm hole could not change.


It was 'A' good movie, but it wasn't Star Trek.  It was way more like Star Wars - ugh!


"If Man is to survive, he will have learned to take delight in the essential difference between people and cultures" -Gene Roddenberry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Col. P. A. Stevens CO, USS Code Talker NCC-1195

___Lucifer___

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:20 pm

Maybe THAT Vulcan would have accepted Uhura's touch.  Just because there was a wormhole that would change many events following it, doesn't mean Spock would have allowed being touched.


Spock is a half-human living on Earth with a human girlfriend, so even if there was some Vulcan cultural taboo, he can give Uhura a pass.


 


Vger23

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:22 pm

I honestly can't believe that 2 full years after the movie has come out, we're still listening to the same cold, wet crapola from people....


EYE WACH DIS MOVEE AHUNDRED TIMES, AN I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW VULKAN IS BLOWN UP AND VULKAN IS CLEARLY SHON IN TEH SEREZ AND MOVEES! WTF???


JJ ABRAHAMS IS TEH SUX! TRBL STAR WARS MOVEE NOT REAL STAR TRAK LIKE INSURRECTION AND NEMESIS!!!


ITS NOT ACCURATE! STAR TRACK IS JUST RUINED! THEY DID EVERYTHING WRONG BECUZ IT'S NOT THE WAY IT HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE!!!


DEY SPIT IN THE FACES OF REAL STAR TRACK FANS LIKE ME! WE DESERVE SUMTHING BETTA FROM THE FRANSHIZE. ARRRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!


Jezuz Krist, is it ever going to end? What is with this phenomenon of people creating accounts on this website JUST to gripe about a movie that is 2 frigging yeras old. I mean, seriously, did you JUST NOW decide that you needed a StarTrek.com account so you could voice your intense dissatisfaction?


There's so much more to talk about. It's a 2 hour movie. Can't we move on and talk about the 100's and 100's of other hours of Star Trek that exist out there rather than re-hashing the same old stale useless complaints that have been brought up, debated, and argued since May of 2009?? I'd love to go just one day without seeing someone with 2 posts put a topic together on:


JJ ABRAHAMS IS SATEN AN NEW STAR TRAK MOVEE IS AWEFOOL!!!!!!!! ARRRGHGHHG!!! TOO MUTCH LIKE STAR WARS!!! NOT MADE FOR THE FANS! STOOPID DUM-DOWN AKSHON AND ECHSPOSHON MOVEE!!!


For the love of God people...stop and take some deep breaths before you post yet another one of these lame-brained threads. Honestly, I'd rather go through and read the 234-page posts in the TNG section with all the fangurl rambling about how dreamy Mr. Data is. And believe me, that is saying a lot.

ColPeg

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:27 pm

Nine.  He stated it plainly to Nurse Chapel, it's a constant that wouldn't change.  Historic events may change when entering into the past, but not cultural nor inner control of emotions started before the entrance.  And it's not just an emotional 'taboo' it's control with their telepathy - part of Vulcan ethics that was ensconced WAY before meeting humans.


Being with a human girlfriend is another error by JJ.


"If Man is to survive, he will have learned to take delight in the essential difference between people and cultures" -Gene Roddenberry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Col. P. A. Stevens CO, USS Code Talker NCC-1195

___Lucifer___

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:41 pm

Being with a human girlfriend is another error by JJ.


Why? Spock's own father married a human. Twice in the Prime Universe.


Blockman

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:51 pm

LOL. I've always used the term "retcon" as retcont. I had no idea it was even in the dictionary.

WkdYngMan

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 8:54 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ Apr. 24 2011, 8:22 pm

>EYE WACH DIS MOVEE AHUNDRED TIMES, AN I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW VULKAN IS BLOWN UP AND VULKAN IS CLEARLY SHON IN TEH SEREZ AND MOVEES! WTF???

>JJ ABRAHAMS IS TEH SUX! TRBL STAR WARS MOVEE NOT REAL STAR TRAK LIKE INSURRECTION AND NEMESIS!!!

>ITS NOT ACCURATE! STAR TRACK IS JUST RUINED! THEY DID EVERYTHING WRONG BECUZ IT'S NOT THE WAY IT HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE!!!

>DEY SPIT IN THE FACES OF REAL STAR TRACK FANS LIKE ME! WE DESERVE SUMTHING BETTA FROM THE FRANSHIZE. ARRRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!

>JJ ABRAHAMS IS SATEN AN NEW STAR TRAK MOVEE IS AWEFOOL!!!!!!!! ARRRGHGHHG!!! TOO MUTCH LIKE STAR WARS!!! NOT MADE FOR THE FANS! STOOPID DUM-DOWN AKSHON AND ECHSPOSHON MOVEE!!!

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HAHAHAHAHA.  Stop it, I can't breathe!  This basically sums everything up from the naysayers, although now you need to add in over the top violent threats which some of the extremist members of Star Trek's facebook did today on Damon Lindelof's birthday posting.  As someone posted, they were coming off as mentally ill.

Blockman

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 9:05 pm

Quote: ___Lucifer___ @ Apr. 24 2011, 7:13 pm

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>^^ The entire movie takes place in an alternate timeline, so none of the TOS episodes or characters are affected. Except for Spock Prime, he's obviously in the alternate timeline now. I wonder if he'll ever make it home.

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I haven't been up on the recent books, but was there supposed to be a new one where it's rumored he "left", which we're to assume means he "got back". (If that's even possible.) ???


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