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Six of Nine

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Report this Apr. 23 2011, 6:02 am

Discuss


As a wise man once wrote, : "Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever".

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 3:47 am

I always adopt the principle of "never say never" when it comes to matters of future science, because the point being that we understand so little now and I don't think we will ever prove that faster than light travel is impossible. And with Quantum Mechanics and our understanding of spacetime particularly in its absolute infancy -- I mean, barely if at all into the crawling stage, although progressing...


For practical purposes, things like super-accellerating particles in the laboratory and so on are a long way from developing Warp Drive as an aid to human travel, but that isn't to say that these are not profoundly significant baby-steps.


 From a philosophical or speculative perspective... We have no idea how long the human race is likely to last and no idea what other civilisations might be out there, possibly even trying to attain a similar goal. So without knowledge of those established boundaries at least, (which is unlikely to be gained in our own lifetimes) I would be very hesitant to offer a response of "No". Humans might not be the ones to figure out the solution, but someone else may.


I have far greater doubts that it will happen in the next 50-52 years!


(sorry)


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r3g

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Report this May. 06 2011, 10:16 am

It would require physics beyond Einstein. So I'm going to say not in the foreseeable future if ever.

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Report this May. 06 2011, 1:37 pm

No warp speed is not possible not even light speed is possible.

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Report this May. 06 2011, 3:56 pm

It is possible, has been mathematically proven.  The problem is power supply.


 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive_%28Star_Trek%29


 


It should be noted it was once said man would neither fly nor break the sound barrier.


 


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Report this May. 07 2011, 5:30 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ May. 06 2011, 3:56 pm

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>It is possible, has been mathematically proven.  The problem is power supply.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive_%28Star_Trek%29

>It should be noted it was once said man would neither fly nor break the sound barrier.

>


You do realise that no matter how much we all love it...star trek is fiction.

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Report this May. 07 2011, 9:03 am

Yes. That doesn't mean the theories it uses aren't based upon physical and mathematical principles that could be developed given the proper technology. Back in the 60s, cell phones were fiction. In Jules Verne's time, going to the moon was.

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Report this May. 07 2011, 9:29 am

i got one word for ya....


supercolider.


discuss!!!


i hope i spelled supercolider right?


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Report this May. 07 2011, 8:50 pm

Here's what NASA has to say about the reality of Warp Drive:


http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/socanwe.html


 


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Report this May. 07 2011, 10:03 pm

Is flight possible? How about communications over long distances? Computers that can fit in your hand? Flat TVs? At one time in history noone could have imagined those things yet we have them now, so I say eventually someone will attain the knowledge to travel faster than light it just might take awhile to learn it.


Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?

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Report this May. 08 2011, 8:36 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ May. 07 2011, 9:03 am

>Yes. That doesn't mean the theories it uses aren't based upon physical and mathematical principles that could be developed given the proper technology. Back in the 60s, cell phones were fiction. In Jules Verne's time, going to the moon was.


Making that comparison is like saying "when I was a baby I couldn't leave the ground. When I grew up I could jump 16in into the air. So, perhaps someday I will be able to jump over the Empire State Building."

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Report this May. 09 2011, 3:49 am

Absolutely not. There are no mathematics or physical laws permitting me to do so. Such principles do exist permitting ftl travel. However, you sound the olden people who said if God meant man to fly, he'd have given him wings. If you can't understand the equations and complex mechanisms of the universe, I'm sorry, but don't come tell an engineer who studies advanced physics that certain things will never be done. The 20th century has seen man come a long way in understanding and harnessing the powers of the universe, that technological and educational evolution is only at its beginning.

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Report this May. 09 2011, 7:26 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ May. 06 2011, 3:56 pm

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>It is possible, has been mathematically proven.  The problem is power supply.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive_%28Star_Trek%29

>It should be noted it was once said man would neither fly nor break the sound barrier.

>


 


THIS.  Our current power and battery technology are woefully horrible.  I would say this is a single main point for slowing down technological process.  We need a better source of power, nuclear is not it.  Stark's "Arc Reactor" would be just the thing.  It all comes back to power.

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Report this May. 09 2011, 8:00 am

Exactly.  The 2 biggest hurdles we face for such technology are power source and building materials.  Travel technology has always had to dream while waiting for break-throughs in these 2 fields.


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Report this May. 09 2011, 8:52 am

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm simply saying that it is many leaps beyond our current technology and understanding of physics. Michio Kaku has stated as much as well.

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