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Would vegans, vegetarians, and/or Vulcans eat meat from the replicator?

tribblenator999

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Report this Apr. 17 2011, 8:43 am

i would love to have a replicator in my house.

Lt_Sears

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Report this Apr. 17 2011, 12:15 pm

As a rule Vulcans don't eat meat, except in dire situations. Case in point


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Report this Apr. 17 2011, 12:34 pm

Every now and again I go for an all veggie plate but I can't stay away from meat at least right now....I miss steak ,I have one roomate who wont beef because "it's not good for you" yet eats a lot of bacon, salt and sugary foods....mind you once a week we have to cook for the whole house...the point: I need a replicator stat!


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Report this Apr. 19 2011, 2:27 pm

two words, boca burgers. Yes they would eat it if they wanted to.

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Report this Apr. 19 2011, 7:27 pm

I am a vegetarian myself.


Here's the answer: NO WAY, MAN!!!


It is true that it would not have come directly from an amimal, but who cares? It would still be replicated animal parts. What's the difference?
Besides, it has been shown that vegetarianism is often healthier than other diets. Vegetarians are not usually overweight and many vegetarians live longer than others.

I would never eat meat, replicator or not, and I don't think Vulcans would either.


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Report this Apr. 20 2011, 2:11 pm

my wife has been a vegetarian for fifteen years, and hates boca burgers because they are too much like real meat burgers. But that being said, boca burgers and tofurkey and soyrizo wouldn't even exist if vegetarians didn't want to eat meat-like products. They aren't making it for us meat eaters.

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Report this Apr. 20 2011, 4:39 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Apr. 15 2011, 6:29 am

>Vulcans, I believe, abstain from meat largely for dietary reasons as do some humans. But many humans abstain out of respect/love for animal life. Replicated meat would perhaps be healthier while originating from energy, not from a living creature.


I actually believe that Vulcans abstain from meat for ethical/logical reasons not dietary ones.


It is obviously completely possible to have a healthy diet while continuing to eat meat. But a Vulcan would argue that the additional resources consumed, and the unnecessary suffering required to consume meat are illogical costs, when it is also completely possible to have a healthy diet composed only of plant foods.


Post-Surak Vulcans are also pacifists, which should help to illuminate the ethics behind their vegetarianism.


Think Gandhi.


GR thought vegetarianism was an ethical ideal that he wished he had the discipline for, another reason he wanted it to be a characteristic of Vulcans.


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Report this Apr. 21 2011, 12:47 pm


I'd say that replicated meat isn't the same a real meat and there would be no ethical issues with eating it.


Replicated meat is made out of waste that the ship collects and breaks down into it's constituant parts. When someone uses the repliacator it uses the transporter to convert that waste matter into food via a stored pattern (the same kind of pattern that is stored in the computer when someone beams from point a to point b). When someone uses the bathroom it takes their waste, breaks it down and stores it to be converted into someone else's food.


So, technically, the food and drinks that comes out of the replicator isn't really what it looks like. It's fake food, kind of like tofu bacon. It just looks and smells like the real thing, but it's made from the food everyone on the ship ate the day before. At it's heart, it's just a bunch of carbon atoms, with some water atoms, made to look like something else.

There are no replicated animal parts, anymore than a block of tofu shaped to look like a stake is an animal part.  If I could make tofu look, smell and taste exactly like a beef stake, so no one could tell the difference, would a vegatarian eat it?

As for Vulcan's eating replicated meat... why would they? If you have a choice of any food you want to eat, then you'll eat what you like. They are not going to choose meat because they have no vulcan dishes that include it (they will make choices based on the culture, not on the tech), but their replicated veggie dish is going to made of exactly the same thing as the replicated meat dish. Some Vulcans might try replicated meat, as their would be no ethical reason to stop them, but unless they liked it they probably wouldn't keep eating it. We tend to eat the foods we were raised on.


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Report this May. 17 2011, 5:27 pm

I noticed in  VOY: Fair Haven, Tuvok gets space sick.  He endures a lot but when Neelix starts talking about the problems of replicating blood pudding, he finally needs to hurl.

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Report this May. 22 2011, 8:50 am

I Vegatarian when come land animals but not fish if came replicator my view not be the same. I have no problem heating meat when come land animals if form replicator they little differnt planets far I care. I think Vulcans would eat meat came replicator after all real not much differnt between planet and repilcator meat even if has little blood on it.

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Report this May. 22 2011, 8:50 am

I Vegatarian when come land animals but not fish if came replicator my view not be the same. I have no problem heating meat when come land animals if form replicator they little differnt planets far I care. I think Vulcans would eat meat came replicator after all real not much differnt between planet and repilcator meat even if has little blood on it.

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Report this May. 22 2011, 8:57 am

I'm pretty sure, at least 22nd Century Vulcans would never consider the idea.


But since little is known about how Vulcan culture has been affected after 200 years, maybe they eased up enough to consider it.


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Report this May. 22 2011, 10:02 am

I'm not a Vulcan, but I would think it would be up to the individual to either eat replicated 'meat' or not.  I would think that many factors would have to be weighed by each indvidual Vulcan as to their choice to eat replicated 'meat' or to not eat it.


In general, I would err of the side of caution and say that most Vulcans would not eat replicated 'meat'.  Logically, that would be the most sound answer.  But I do also think that there would be some Vulcans that would perhaps at least try 'meat' from the replicator


As for myself, in my opinion God made us to be Omnivores.  Our teeth are proof of that.  We have tearing teeth, which meat eaters have, and grinding teeth, which foraging or grass eaters have.  I enjoy a good piece of meat and I enjoy fruits and vegies.


I'm not going to force my POV on anyone and I ask that others do not force their POV on me, please.  'nuff said


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Report this May. 22 2011, 2:56 pm

As a vegetarian for ethical reasons, yes, I would eat meat from a replicator.  I am looking forward to a time when lab-grown meat is readily available.


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Report this May. 23 2011, 2:23 pm

There is an interesting scene in ST:TUC where Valeris blasts a cooking pot with her phaser whilst visiting a galley with Spock (amongst others). Right next to this (ex) container are two very large roasted chickens or turkeys! They don't look reconstituted to me! Was this a little insider joke the film-makers inserted for our amusement?

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