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Why Does Everyone Love Klingons?

T Pring

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 8:25 pm

I don't like klingons!! There gross!


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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 8:32 pm

I hate klingons

T'Pau

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 8:39 pm

I don't know, but I don't really like them either. I think that they're pretty annoying and all that warrior stuff is stupid. Characters like Spock and Data were always entertaining, but Worf was boring to watch.

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 8:52 pm

I like Klingons because I find them a fascinating species. They provide confilct in some of the stories, their ideas of honor are quite interesting, their alchoholic drinks are reportedly quite potent, those forehead ridges are great, and I thought they had good ship designs. I really do find the idea of a warrior race quite fascinating, and the Klingon episodes do hold my attention.


Really though, I like Worf. I thought he was cute... for a Klingon (Though he looked better with the long hair in a ponytail). The issues he had with other Klingons was probably his most interesting aspect, aside from appearance.


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T'Pau

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 9:05 pm

What really bothered me was that there were so many Star Trek Klingon-based movies and episodes which, to me at least, seemed to have the same idea. i guess I can see why some people would like them and find the idea of them being warriors interesting. I have always found the Vulcans fascinating, and I'm sure some people don't. About Worf's relationship with other people, I didn't like that too much because I preferred episodes that had to do with all the character's, instead of focusing on just one. Although there are certain things about them that are interesting, they are still probably my least favorite alien race.

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 9:31 pm

I used to dislike Klingons and find Klingon episodes to be comparatively dull. However, now I like them. Apart from the cut-out bad guy models of TOS, they have a complex and believable culture and really their ideology is so refreshingly different to that of the Federation.


There is actually a really good essay written about this; It's called "Everything I learned I learned from playing Klingon." An interesting read -- about why people love to RP Klingons and why they are fascinated by the Klingon culture and way of life.


Some Klingons (Like Martok) I like a lot. Others (like Kurn) not so much. A lot of it also may be about what exactly attracts you to Star Trek. I am not a huge fan of Vulcans (although some I like) and actually as a general rule I like the Romulans and Andorians and Bajorans and Cardassians and even Hew-mons (hehe) a little bit better than Vulcans or Klingons...


Tend to have more of an opinion of individual characters than races.


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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 11:18 pm

 I think the Klingon women are Interesting. Lursa and B'tor are good


 examples.


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Report this Apr. 06 2011, 8:57 am

The best thing I liked about Klingons were that their society thought so highly of honor.  (Although there were some that didn't believe in it and only feigned honor/integrity.)


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Report this Apr. 06 2011, 7:55 pm

Klingons are okay I am just saying that it seems like more people should like vulcans and romulans. Sorry to up set some people


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Report this Apr. 06 2011, 10:51 pm

'Cause there just so darned cute and cuddly....

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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 10:24 am

I can´t say I have a preference for Klingons either. When watching through TNG for the first time, at a certain point I got bored with the Klingon centered episodes, and began to skip them altogether.


As for the species: Worf is a good man, with a real sense of honour and duty that is highly commendable. He may be a bit explosive at times, but that´s just part of his character.


As for the other Klingons I´ve seen - I find the so advocated Klingon honour sorely lacking in many of them.


I suppose they made for a nice contrast with the Federation ideologies, but when carried to excess... In itself, I found Romulans more interesting opponents. As well as Ferenghi.


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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 7:00 pm

Klingons are great!  They remind me of space-faring vikings.

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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 7:05 pm

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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 7:53 pm

Klingons are the reason I keep coming back for more Star Trek.  (Well, maybe there are a few other reasons, but mainly, it's Klingons.)  Warning: super-long paean to my favorite alien race to follow:


I think they're cool looking.  I think their ships are cool looking.  I think that Klingons make some of the best Star Trek villains (Kor, Kang, Chang, even Koloth).  No doubt some of my interest in Klingons is sentimental and even a bit nostalgic.  "The Trouble with Tribbles" was the first Star Trek episode I ever saw, as a child.  Star Trek IV was the first Star Trek movie I ever saw, so I fell in love with the Klingon bird of prey as a ship design before I ever even really got to know the Enterprise.  Shortly after, I saw Star Trek VI, which has been my favorite of the Star Trek movies ever since, and of course, Star Trek VI may be the most klingon-centric story in the franchise.


I also love some of the relatively minor Klingon characters throughout the franchise.  Somehow, they have managed to be some of the franchise's most interesting bit players, for me.  I am thinking of the Klingon ambassador in Star Treks IV and VI, Chancellor Gorkon and his daughter, Kord in Star Trek V, the assimilated Klingon in Voyager's "Unimatrix Zero," the leader of the Klingon pilgrims in Voyager's "Prophecy," B'Elanna Torres' mother, the Klingon lawyer in Enterprise, the Klingon doctor in a later Enterprise episode and Kang's wife (and science officer) in the original series episode "Day of the Dove."  I thought that the presentation of Kang's wife was just a fascinating bit of characterization.  In a way, it made the Klingons like these strange warrior-nomads who travelled around in families, while in a different way, it made the Klingons--the so-called bad guys of the episode--more enlightened on gender issues than were our heroes in Kirk's crew.  It's a great example of what I like most about the Klingons--the way they hold a complex mirror up to humanity, full of points of similarity and points of contrast.


The Klingons of The Next Generation were not my favorites in the franchise.  While cool looking, I thought they were a step backward from the original Klingons.  Gone was true Klingon guile, the crafty, human-like Klingons that brilliantly invented terrifying technologies, ran an efficient totalitarian empire and had female science officers in their fleet.  In place of such cool Klingons, we got overwrought warriors who seemed to fight without thinking, take their warrior ethos to unrealistic lengths and talk about "honor" without clearly defining what "honor" is.  But I still thought The Next Generation Klingons were interesting, and Michael Dorn was one of the few cast members of The Next Generation whose acting was consistently good, in my opinion.


As I've already suggested, the main reason I love Klingons is because I think they so effectively mirror humans, which makes the Klingon stories in Star Trek some of the franchise's best meditations on the meaning of humanity.  Klingons really are the nightmare version of humans, with all the enticing, ambiguous power nightmares can have.  When I say that Klingons are the nightmare version of humans, I do not mean to suggest that they are simply evil and opposite from a human perspective.  For me, none of the other Star Trek adversaries, including the two other popular ones, the Borg and the Romulans, really worked as well as the Klingons to define humanity.  Kor's parallel relationship with Kirk throughout the original series episode "Errand of Mercy"; the political and philosophical dimensions of the problem of the antagonist, as presented in Star Trek VI; and B'Elanna Torres' struggle to balance her Klingon and human halves in Voyager are three different ways that the Klingons as humanity's foil worked for me.


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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 7:59 pm

Oh, and I forgot to mention bat'leths.  I think bat'leths are really cool.


Falor was a prosperous merchant who went on a journey to gain greater awareness: Through storms he crossed the Voroth Sea/ To reach the clouded shores of Raal/ Where old T’Para offered truth./ He traveled through the windswept hills/ And crossed the barren Fire Plains/ To find the silent monks of Kir./ Still unfulfilled, he journeyed home/ Told stories of the lessons learned/ And gained true wisdom by the giving. – Falor’s Journey, “Innocence”

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