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Star Trek reviewed, from start to finish

wissa

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Report this Jun. 16 2011, 9:25 am

Quote: Spouter @ May. 26 2011, 12:55 am

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>PATTERNS OF FORCE

>A great episode, i love these eps that deal in `pretend time travel', featuring planets which have societies modelled on some part of Earth history. Strange that John Gill, a peaceful man, went a little overboard and modelled the planet on Nazi Germany. I wonder who started the persecution of the Zeons? It couldnt have been Gill surely? The scene of Kirk and Spock being whipped was cut by the BBC. Valora Norland (Daras) is another of the sexiest women in TOS, who never gets a mention. At one point she says she grew up respecting, then hating the Fuhrer - but hes only been on Ekos for about 6 months, and she is at least 18.

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yeah the time line really doesn't make sense unless the Ekosians only live 7 years or something like the Ocampa.  lol


I'm just going to insert a snippet of my own review of it from arch-angels


Watching this as an adult one of the things I was most conscious of was Nimoy and Shatner are both Jewish. That added a strong sense of poignancy that no script could have provided. If these much loved actors, these icons, had been born in Europe instead of North America they may never have lived to adulthood.


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Report this Jun. 16 2011, 11:53 am

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 16 2011, 8:25 am

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>THE ENTERPRISE INCIDENT

>(....)The love scenes between her and Spock were added by the story editor, Arthur H. Singer - apparently, Dorothy Fontana was horrified when she found out, and personally apologised to Leonard Nimoy on set. Incidentally, these scenes, of Spock and the Commander stroking each others hands were cut by the BBC who considered them embarrassing! And Bill Shatner really poses for the camera in sickbay when hes disguised as a Romulan

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Yes, I always skip that scene. Because it seems to me quite inappropriate to look at them, when they are doing things like that- even if its only on TV. They were just stroking each other and not on their private parts and they both were fully clothed, but I found it quite more ...sexual?, than it actually was.


THE WOMEN!!!

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Report this Jun. 17 2011, 9:37 am

Quote: Spouter @ May. 27 2011, 5:04 am

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>THE OMEGA GLORY

>This ep is one of my favourites from TOS, because its the best example of turd-polishing - taking a boring story and making it an interesting 49 mins. The ideas are all old-hat: Renegade Starship captain, parallel Earth, fountain of youth. Theyve all been done in Star Trek, or feel like they have. But the ep is always entertaining. The disease reducing its victims to powder gets things off to a good start, plus a rare chance to see Ed McCready in the flesh (without makeup) as the dying Exeter's Doctor. Theres another great OTT performance from Morgan Woodward, and plenty of action. I can do a great impression of Woodward, from both this ep, and `Dagger of the Mind', what a pity you cant see it.  The ending raises an interesting point about TOS - it has a reputation as a peace-loving, pacifistic show, which preaches tolerance, non-violence etc., but it's ironic because it must be one of the most violent 60s SF series, often presenting ideas, scenes which are quite horrible - here for instance, we have the spectacle of 2 men (Kirk and Tracey) in a fight to the death, watched by a cheering mob, while they fight to get control of a knife, to stick into the other's stomach or head! Lovely. This isnt a criticism, more an observation, and it's one of the many exciting things about this great show - the idea that a peaceful man like Kirk often has to use violent methods to achieve a peaceful goal. Its also interesting that he is a very adept fighter, as many people in todays society believe that pacifistic people would be wimps/pushovers. Well with Kirk, heres someone who's a pacifist, but when he needs to, can he sock it to them! 

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that end is just so ridiculous to me that it ruins the whole episode


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Report this Jun. 21 2011, 5:27 am

AND THE CHILDREN SHALL LEAD


Regarded as the 2nd-worst ep, after `Spock's Brain', this is nothing of the sort. The only negative thing i could say is the plot isnt original, its a mixture of `Miri' and `Charlie X', but it works well. Even the performances of the child actors are good, and not cloying or embarrassing, as they could have been. The scene where the kids take over the bridge is well-done, especially the bit where they influence Spock into thinking that there's nothing wrong. That security guard must be Uber-Thick, the way he just stands staring at Kirk, when Kirks words come out backwards. The `Gorgan' is well acted, and im surprised the US networks allowed the scene at the end to get through, as he decays - we even see an eyeball hanging on his cheek!! The scene on Triacus, where Kirk and Spock go in a cave and Kirk has a panic attack caused by the invisible prescence of the alien, was cut by the BBC. Listen for Chekov's line "Will you come pissfully, Keptin?"

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Report this Jun. 22 2011, 4:20 pm

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 03 2011, 12:50 am

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>THE ULTIMATE COMPUTER

>Someone in the ST production office was very paranoid about our mechanical friends, back in the 60s, what with the steady stream of stories about deranged computers/machines. This ep is really just about average, one of the most obscure and least-discussed eps. Apart from the M5 prop, it contains nothing new - no new effects, sets etc, and only 2 guest stars. As soon as it begins, its obvious what is going to happen, and it follows a predictable path. One thing i like very much though is that the Enterprise goes into orbit around a Strange New World, but no-one beams down, and we dont see the surface - Spock presents a read-out on the planet having 2 major land masses, one of which is populated, but we dont see the inhabitants, and so this allows our imagination to work, creating a society in our own minds. For me, the planet has a yellow sky, and is inhabited by a race of aliens who resemble giant spiders, but with humanoid heads (a bit like `The Zanti Misfits' from `The Outer Limits').

>Nice to hear James Doohan as the voice of M5, and to see the stock composite shots of the Enterprise, as the other StarFleet ships.

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how many times has kirk talked a computer into killing itself now?


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Report this Jun. 27 2011, 3:07 am

I agree with you about the `love scenes', and the female commander. Strangely, when the Romulans popped up in the Gold Key ST comic, the commander was female as well.

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Report this Jun. 27 2011, 3:26 am

I was going to wait and let my friend Wissa catch up with her reviews over on Arch Angels, but its like a craving for chocolate - suddenly you cant resist adding a new review or two! So, heres 2 more to be going on with


IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY?


Frankly, the concept of this episode alone is enough to ensure that all the negative comments about the 3rd season over the years are unwarranted. This story has a far more interesting idea behind it than many of the stories in the first 2 seasons, and its a shame the show didnt do more `avant-garde' stuff like this. The idea of a race, ugly enough to cause madness is fascinating. Its a pity though, that whenever Kollos' box is opened, bright colourful lights shine out - that, combined with Spock's dark visor, gives the impression that the Medusans are too dazzling to look at, rather than too hideous. I wonder what they look like - i imagine something resembling a cross between a spider, a corpse, and a Human baby. One fan came up with an interesting theory - that the Medusans are non-corporeal so when someone sees one, they imagine a horror which drives them mad. Some fans have speculated that the idea is far-fetched. I disagree. Think of something like a spider (of the sort you might find in the bath). Now, that would not  be enough to cause insanity in itself, but imagine if that spider were hundreds of times larger, and it was right beside you! How many of us would be able to stand that without going mad? Diana Muldaur gives a good performance, funny how everyone seems to fall for her, as shes quite a selfish arrogant bitch. I like the effect seeing Kollos has upon Marvick and Spock - Marvick wants to run, run, run to get away from the horror, while Spock's mind turns inwards, refusing to accept a universe where such a creature exists. Great concept - something so physically repellant, you wouldnt want to live in the same universe! 


SPECTRE OF THE GUN


Another classic, and a favourite of mine. Westerns and SF/Fantasy always mesh well together, and this is one of the best examples of that theme. The story is more original than the other Earth civilisation-based eps, and the strange semi-sets are excellent, even at the end where shadows of trees can clearly be seen on them. The Melkotian looks very effective, and the climactic gunfight is excellent. The bit where Kirk loses his temper with the Sheriff was cut by the BBC, pity because its an excellent moment. Occassionally with these reviews, ive included what the `Radio Times' (the British equivalent of TV Guide) had to say about the eps: heres the RT billing for this episode, used throughout the 70s/80s.


`Captain Kirk's persistence in exploring a forbidden planet leads to a sentence of death being placed on him and his party. Instead of phasers, they find the unfamiliar shape of six-guns in their hands, and it begins to look as if they really going west'.

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Report this Jun. 27 2011, 11:38 am

I'd have thought mixing Trek and western is a bad idea before I saw Spectre of the Gun, it was very well done here. I like it especially for the solution they found in the end, that physical laws don't work normally and Chekov was "killed" only because he believed that the illusion was reality and the bullets would harm him. Also it was quite funny when Kirk was trying all the time to convince people he wasn't Ike Clanton and they all thought he was joking, and one can't forget the showdown with the famous Kirk drop kick in action.


The only thing I didn't like so much about "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" was how they all fell for Miranda at the start, but that's minor aspect to this very good episode.

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Report this Jun. 29 2011, 12:53 am

Quote: RoTrekkie @ Jun. 27 2011, 11:38 am

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>I'd have thought mixing Trek and western is a bad idea before I saw Spectre of the Gun, it was very well done here. I like it especially for the solution they found in the end, that physical laws don't work normally and Chekov was "killed" only because he believed that the illusion was reality and the bullets would harm him. Also it was quite funny when Kirk was trying all the time to convince people he wasn't Ike Clanton and they all thought he was joking, and one can't forget the showdown with the famous Kirk drop kick in action.

>The only thing I didn't like so much about "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" was how they all fell for Miranda at the start, but that's minor aspect to this very good episode.

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When i first saw `Spectre of the Gun', i thought that, when we see Chekov on the bridge at the end, and Kirk and McCoy are examining him, that the whole thing had been a dream of his

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Report this Jul. 01 2011, 5:49 pm

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 27 2011, 3:26 am

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>I was going to wait and let my friend Wissa catch up with her reviews over on Arch Angels, but its like a craving for chocolate - suddenly you cant resist adding a new review or two! So, heres 2 more to be going on with

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I"m catching up


 


just watched The enterprise incident.  Thanks for the background info.  I agree it was a great episode.  And so much fun to see Spock in the typical kirk romance.  He was so much more the gentleman than kirk though.


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Report this Jul. 02 2011, 1:05 am

Quote: wissa @ Jul. 01 2011, 5:49 pm

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 27 2011, 3:26 am

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>I was going to wait and let my friend Wissa catch up with her reviews over on Arch Angels, but its like a craving for chocolate - suddenly you cant resist adding a new review or two! So, heres 2 more to be going on with

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I"m catching up

 

just watched The enterprise incident.  Thanks for the background info.  I agree it was a great episode.  And so much fun to see Spock in the typical kirk romance.  He was so much more the gentleman than kirk though.

welcome to season 3

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Report this Jul. 02 2011, 1:13 am

DAY OF THE DOVE


The best Klingon story in TOS by far - great performance from Michael Ansara which, if TOS had continued for a few more years, should have been the benchmark for Klingon acting. Nice to see a couple of female Klingons as well. Once again, Chekov gets a bit to do - the scene where hes about to rape (?) Mara was trimmed but not completely cut by the BBC. Kirks alternate universe bodyguard in `Mirror, Mirror' pops up here as a Klingon. The swordfights are energetic but marred because its obvious they are blunt. A pity most of the female crewmembers were trapped below decks - it would have been interesting to see them engage in a bit of swordplay.


Listen to the scene on the Bridge where Spock and Scotty almost come to blows - Scotty says "Keep your Vulcan hands off me!", but James Doohan muffles the line and it sounds like he has told Spock to keep his `F***in' hands' off! Any casual viewer, who didnt know Spock's background, would definitely think that Scotty had just used the F word

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Report this Jul. 02 2011, 8:35 am

Quote: Spouter @ Jul. 02 2011, 1:05 am

Quote: wissa @ Jul. 01 2011, 5:49 pm

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 27 2011, 3:26 am

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>I was going to wait and let my friend Wissa catch up with her reviews over on Arch Angels, but its like a craving for chocolate - suddenly you cant resist adding a new review or two! So, heres 2 more to be going on with

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I"m catching up

 

just watched The enterprise incident.  Thanks for the background info.  I agree it was a great episode.  And so much fun to see Spock in the typical kirk romance.  He was so much more the gentleman than kirk though.

welcome to season 3


the kids are on summer vacation now so I should be able to plow through it a little faster.


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Report this Jul. 02 2011, 9:47 am

Quote: Ziriath @ Jun. 16 2011, 11:53 am

Quote: Spouter @ Jun. 16 2011, 8:25 am

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>THE ENTERPRISE INCIDENT

>(....)The love scenes between her and Spock were added by the story editor, Arthur H. Singer - apparently, Dorothy Fontana was horrified when she found out, and personally apologised to Leonard Nimoy on set. Incidentally, these scenes, of Spock and the Commander stroking each others hands were cut by the BBC who considered them embarrassing! And Bill Shatner really poses for the camera in sickbay when hes disguised as a Romulan

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Yes, I always skip that scene. Because it seems to me quite inappropriate to look at them, when they are doing things like that- even if its only on TV. They were just stroking each other and not on their private parts and they both were fully clothed, but I found it quite more ...sexual?, than it actually was.


The touching of fingers is established as a Vulcan bonding reinforcement in another episode (don't want to get ahead of Spouter's viewing!) Also Vulcan's use their fingertips to initate telepathic communication -- so I think the erotic potential is established in canon.  I'm sorry Dorothy F. didn't like this clumsy attempt to demonstrate sexual attraction.

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Report this Jul. 05 2011, 12:44 am

FOR THE WORLD IS HOLLOW AND I HAVE TOUCHED THE SKY


The first partial failure in what had been, up to now, a brilliant season, this episode is corny. It comes across as cliched, pulp sci-fi, with the High Priestess, the Oracle, Dr McCoy having an incurable illness etc. The idea of a generational ship disguised as an asteroid is good though, and the bits where Kirk and co are electrocuted by the Oracle stand out. Kate Woodville is very hammy as Natira, apparently one of those performers who think that, if they are in a SF/Fantasy production, they have to act in a stylised way and put on a silly voice - especially bad is the bit where she introduces the landing party to the Oracle: "Streyngerrrss have come among us!" really makes me cringe! DeForrest Kelley is obviously embarrassed in the scenes where he romances Natira, perhaps because of his long and happy marriage, he felt uncomfortable acting out scenes like this, even though it was just a performance?


THE THOLIAN WEB


A great episode, this is unusual because it presents more than one threat for the crew to deal with - Kirk lost in another dimension, the Tholian Web itself, and the odd space that drives people mad. The effects are excellent , especially for 60s tv. Not surprising that Chekov is the first to go mad. When Kirk and co are on the Defiant, some of the dead crew are just lying around, but they are supposed to have killed each other. We see some dead crewwomen, but they dont look injured in any way, just asleep on the deck. The Tholian is very good, and its ambiguous as to whether the crew have met or heard of them before. This episode was cut very badly by the BBC - Chekov screaming in sickbay, Scotty attacked in engineering, and worst of all, some shots of the Enterprise surrounded by the Tholian Web were cut out.

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