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Star Trek reviewed, from start to finish

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Report this Aug. 05 2011, 2:41 am

Quote: Spouter @ Aug. 04 2011, 4:12 am

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>ALL OUR YESTERDAYS

>Another excellent ep, despite being a rehash of `City on the Edge of Forever' with some differences of degree. The 3 main characters go back in time (but on another planet, rather than Earth), one of them falls in love and isnt himself. In `City...' it was Kirk who fell in love, and Bones wasnt himself, but here it's the same person: Spock! I love the idea of a doomed civilisation travelling back in time via cds in a Library, to escape destruction, and the witty idea of the Librarian being called `Atoz'. Shatner looks better in this ep, slightly trimmer, and he has visited a barber, making him look more like he did in the earlier eps. Good to see outdoor sets being used for once. The planet Sarpeidon is another duplicate Earth, it seems, with an English Civil War sort of society, which explains the Cavalier treatment Kirk receives Zarabeth seems to be very popular among male fans, but Mariette Hartley does nothing for me, though the idea of a sort of Female Tarzan is a good one. This ep also illustrates how forgiving people are in the 23rd century - personally, if i were Bones, i would never talk to Spock again.

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I really like this one too. Oddly, for years when ST wasn't on TV and before I had either started collecting them on VHS or more recently discs - this story always stuck in my mind. It was a great idea. What better place to escape natural catastrophe than into your own past. Of course all those millions of souls appearing in the planet's past history must have played merry hell with the timelines - but hey - who cares when it's all going up in smoke anyway?!!!


Once again Spock's chance at emotional happiness is scuppered by the needs of his comrades. However, his reversion to a more emotional state (ancient Vulcan past) shows both sides of his character that is usually subdued - the fact that he really gets pissed off with McCoy's constant carping at him - plus the fact, he actually really cares for the doctor as well.


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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 3:41 am

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Aug. 05 2011, 2:41 am

Quote: Spouter @ Aug. 04 2011, 4:12 am

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>ALL OUR YESTERDAYS

>Another excellent ep, despite being a rehash of `City on the Edge of Forever' with some differences of degree. The 3 main characters go back in time (but on another planet, rather than Earth), one of them falls in love and isnt himself. In `City...' it was Kirk who fell in love, and Bones wasnt himself, but here it's the same person: Spock! I love the idea of a doomed civilisation travelling back in time via cds in a Library, to escape destruction, and the witty idea of the Librarian being called `Atoz'. Shatner looks better in this ep, slightly trimmer, and he has visited a barber, making him look more like he did in the earlier eps. Good to see outdoor sets being used for once. The planet Sarpeidon is another duplicate Earth, it seems, with an English Civil War sort of society, which explains the Cavalier treatment Kirk receives Zarabeth seems to be very popular among male fans, but Mariette Hartley does nothing for me, though the idea of a sort of Female Tarzan is a good one. This ep also illustrates how forgiving people are in the 23rd century - personally, if i were Bones, i would never talk to Spock again.

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I really like this one too. Oddly, for years when ST wasn't on TV and before I had either started collecting them on VHS or more recently discs - this story always stuck in my mind. It was a great idea. What better place to escape natural catastrophe than into your own past. Of course all those millions of souls appearing in the planet's past history must have played merry hell with the timelines - but hey - who cares when it's all going up in smoke anyway?!!!

Once again Spock's chance at emotional happiness is scuppered by the needs of his comrades. However, his reversion to a more emotional state (ancient Vulcan past) shows both sides of his character that is usually subdued - the fact that he really gets pissed off with McCoy's constant carping at him - plus the fact, he actually really cares for the doctor as well.

Glad you like it, overall season 3 is excellent i think.


 


And now, to the last ep


TURNABOUT INTRUDER


An impressive end to the show. The concept of body swapping is old-hat, but the idea of 2 people of different genders ending up in each other's bodies is relatively novel, and this is the first time the idea was used in ST. Shatner hams it up a bit as a female Kirk, but its great fun, especially in the Hearing scenes - i love the contemptuous look Spock gives him/her, as Spock declares he (spock) will do everything in his power to stop Kirk/Lester. Nice little references to earlier eps, The Tholian Web and The Empath. Nurse Chapel now has brown hair, and her skirt seems a few inches shorter. Pity Uhura isnt in this, everyone else (bar Janice Rand) is back for the final ep. The most surprising thing here is the realisation that TOS had/has so many female fans, as the show is quite sexist, and in this episode, mysogynistic! Listen to the dialogue: "Its better to be dead than to live alone in the body of a woman, its better to be dead!", " Now you know the indignity of being a woman" and, at the end, as Janice is led away weeping, her mad dream of being a Starship Captain thwarted (Women capable of being Captains in StarFleet! Nonsense!!), Kirk says condescendingly " Her life could have been as rich as any woman's...." Women were generally presented in a bad light in TOS, ranging from being rather stupid, to the extent of being unable to even push a button properly (Balance of Terror), poor judges of character (Dagger of the Mind), scheming bitches (Amok Time) or just there for the male crewmembers, and the viewers , to leer at.


Overall, i think Season 3 is excellent, at least as good as the others. Ive no doubt though, that the silly myth that the third season was somehow completely different to the other 2, and that it was trash, will continue to prevail.

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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 3:45 am

Ive enjoyed reviewing the eps, and will keep this thread going a little bit longer, with some personal recollections of watching the eps, and other bits of trivia, before i begin my reviews of ST: TNG

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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 10:12 am

Quote: Spouter @ Aug. 09 2011, 3:45 am

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>Ive enjoyed reviewing the eps, and will keep this thread going a little bit longer, with some personal recollections of watching the eps, and other bits of trivia, before i begin my reviews of ST: TNG

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what?   no animated series?


 


I'm never going to catch up with you then


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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 11:06 am

Quote: wissa @ Aug. 09 2011, 10:12 am

Quote: Spouter @ Aug. 09 2011, 3:45 am

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>Ive enjoyed reviewing the eps, and will keep this thread going a little bit longer, with some personal recollections of watching the eps, and other bits of trivia, before i begin my reviews of ST: TNG

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what?   no animated series?

 

I'm never going to catch up with you then

I havent seen all the animated eps, Wissa  ill be getting the DVD set later in the year. Eventually, ill review all the eps of all the shows

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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 11:42 am

I went and got it so I could do it all in order


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Report this Aug. 11 2011, 8:48 am

Back in 1978, after watching `Dagger of the Mind', i got a crush on Helen Noel, which lasted about a year, and was replaced by a crush on Janice Rand after watching `Charlie X'. Those were happy days - i used to fantasise, as you do when you have a crush, that i was on board the Enterprise and would get involved in stories where aliens made me kiss and ravish the aforementioned women

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Report this Aug. 14 2011, 3:12 am

where's my shuttlecraft picture gone?

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Report this Aug. 14 2011, 7:04 am

Quote: Spouter @ Aug. 09 2011, 3:41 am

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>TURNABOUT INTRUDER

>An impressive end to the show. The concept of body swapping is old-hat, but the idea of 2 people of different genders ending up in each other's bodies is relatively novel, and this is the first time the idea was used in ST. Shatner hams it up a bit as a female Kirk, but its great fun, especially in the Hearing scenes - i love the contemptuous look Spock gives him/her, as Spock declares he (spock) will do everything in his power to stop Kirk/Lester. Nice little references to earlier eps, The Tholian Web and The Empath. Nurse Chapel now has brown hair, and her skirt seems a few inches shorter. Pity Uhura isnt in this, everyone else (bar Janice Rand) is back for the final ep. The most surprising thing here is the realisation that TOS had/has so many female fans, as the show is quite sexist, and in this episode, mysogynistic! Listen to the dialogue: "Its better to be dead than to live alone in the body of a woman, its better to be dead!", " Now you know the indignity of being a woman" and, at the end, as Janice is led away weeping, her mad dream of being a Starship Captain thwarted (Women capable of being Captains in StarFleet! Nonsense!!), Kirk says condescendingly " Her life could have been as rich as any woman's...." Women were generally presented in a bad light in TOS, ranging from being rather stupid, to the extent of being unable to even push a button properly (Balance of Terror), poor judges of character (Dagger of the Mind), scheming bitches (Amok Time) or just there for the male crewmembers, and the viewers , to leer at.

>Overall, i think Season 3 is excellent, at least as good as the others. Ive no doubt though, that the silly myth that the third season was somehow completely different to the other 2, and that it was trash, will continue to prevail.

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You're right with the portrayal of the women then (but I think T'Pring was more a product of a dumb society ruled by traditions, so I cant blame her much)


But Janice Lester was just insane, therefore she couldn't be captain. My sister, after seeing this episode, said:  'This is sad. If you want to be a captain, you must not have a problem with yourself, but not only this, you must like other people too. She might could have a better life, if she had friends, and not lived a lonely life on a station far away.'


She did not have personality qualities to be an officer, but she blamed the fact she is a woman for it. If women can be first officers, then they can have higher ranks too, I think.


I noticed that redshirts probably are not real people. If insane captain tells them to execute all the senior officers without a proper court martial, they will do it without saying a word.


It was quite strange that it took them so much time to find out what happened, when some episodes ago  (in Return to tomorrow) Spock spent some time in Christine's body, while his own was occupied by Henoch.


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Report this Aug. 19 2011, 5:58 am

Thanks for the comments Ziriath


youre right about redshirts not being `real people' - they always come over as being really thick.


Heres some more `Radio Times' (the UK version of TV Guide) listings for ST:


Operation - Annihilate `A spaceship hurtling to the sun, her crew preferring the holocaust to the horror which besets them, warns Captain Kirk of danger on the planet Deneva. His worst fears are realised when he finds it's inhabitants tortured by an intolerable invasion of the unknown.'


The Enterprise Incident `The strange behaviour of Captain Kirk causes adverse comment aboard the Enterprise, which deteriorates into dissention when it seems he has led his crew into a suicidal situation. Even his normally faithful second in command, Mr Spock, openly doubts his sanity, and is eventually forced to eliminate his commander with the Vulcan death grip!'


Mirror, Mirror `Stepping aboard from the transporter pads, Captain Kirk is greeted by a strangely sinister Mister Spock, and, startled, surveys his surroundings, as through a glass darkly, hardly believing what he sees. What has happened in his brief absence is cause for deep reflection indeed'.

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Report this Aug. 21 2011, 4:03 am

I dont know if anyone is actually interested in these, but heres some more of the `Radio Times' listings for TOS:


Mudd's Women `It is said that beauty is only skin-deep, and there is certainly more to the heavenly beauties who are beamed on board the Enterprise, than meets the eyes of their enthralled rescuers'.


Return to Tomorrow `The USS Enterprise is lured 1,000 light years beyond explored space by a weird call for help from a seemingly lifeless world. There, beneath 100 miles of solid rock, Captain Kirk encounters a staggering situation which leads to him literally taking leave of his senses'.


The Ultimate Computer `A sceptical Captain Kirk has grave reservations when informed of the experiment to be carried out on his ship, but has to agree with Mister Spock that the amazing M5 seems a great success. Then comes crisis and catastrophe, with Kirk completely losing control, and StarFleet Command giving the grim order to its spaceships: `Destroy the Enterprise!''


Requiem for Methuselah `The deadly epidemic raging on board the Enterprise can only be halted by an antidote from planet Halbrecht 917G. With just four hours to save his crew, Captain Kirk encounters the green-eyed monster of the emotions, and is smitten by an age-old malady for which there is no cure'.


Turnabout Intruder `The burly figure of Captain Kirk is regarded with unusual disfavour by his increasingly resentful officers, following his return from a rescue operation involving an old flame. His unwonted petulance may well be pardonable, but what possible reason could there be for the vindictive rage which drives his men to mutiny?'.


and, something of a collectors' item here, for UK fans. When `Miri' was screened in 1970, which led to the barrage of complaints which resulted in it being banned, heres the `Radio Times' billing for that screening.


Miri `Distress signals send the USS Enterprise speeding towrds the source, and Captain Kirk is staggered by what he sees on the video screen, 1000 light-years from where it should be! The surprise serves to condition him somewhat for the situation that awaits him, but nothing could prepare the landing party for the grotesque world of Peter Pans who never grow up - for long!' 


 

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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:11 am

Quote: Spouter @ Jul. 11 2011, 1:39 pm

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>THE EMPATH

>Or, The One Where Kirk likes a Woman but doesnt make a pass at Her.

>This is the 3rd of the four BBC-banned eps, and its easy to see why this fell foul of the censors. An ep where the main character is stripped to the waist, hung in chains and tortured had no chance of being shown on prime time back in 1970. Funnily enough, this was due to be the first 3rd season ep shown by the BBC, but after the fuss caused by `Miri', it was banned and replaced at the last minute with `The Paradise Syndrome'. The strange semi-sets are very good, Gem is ok, and the Vians are quite scary! Ive had quite a few dreams involving them over the years! I saw a clip from this ep in the 80s, and i was impressed at the atmosphere created by a short out-of-context clip. The Vians' motivation is a bit odd, and the torture scenes are quite bland and could have done with a few screams from Kirk to make them juicier. This ep was written by a fan, who sent the script in on spec - the storyline has a few similarities to `The Cage' and, as a wink to the fans, the aliens are called Vian, which is an anagram of Vina, the central character in that earlier ep.

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why is kirk tortured without his shirt and mccoy with? 


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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:25 am

Because it's KIRK. But considering how Bones' shirt ended, it was not much different. Or Kirk somewhat knew, that his shirt would be ripped to shreds, so he took it off.


I noticed Kirk is the only one, who has to take his shirt off while medical examinations.


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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 10:49 am

Quote: Ziriath @ Aug. 31 2011, 10:25 am

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>Because it's KIRK. But considering how Bones' shirt ended, it was not much different. Or Kirk somewhat knew, that his shirt would be ripped to shreds, so he took it off.

>I noticed Kirk is the only one, who has to take his shirt off while medical examinations.

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not that I'm complaining, but did you notice Kirk's shirt was made from some space fabric other than everyone else's?  it just fell into shreds whenever he was in a fist fight.


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Report this Aug. 31 2011, 2:50 pm

And I think Kirk was satisfied with this. According to Ex Astris Scientia, he had about 25 times ripped shirt (and once torn pants) throughout the series. Bones had only once ripped shirt (Empath). Spock as well (the Apple), but on the back and he was wearing a black undershirt, so it does not count.


 


 


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