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Calculating the Stardate

MoppyCGDaniels

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 12:20 pm

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Quote: MoppyCGDaniels @ Apr. 04 2011, 12:03 pm

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>Though my knowledge is based on the entire ST canon in series and movies. When ENT was ca. 2140 years not stardate, as for TOS (ST09) is about a Century later & for TNG, DS9 plus VOY is happening at 2300 (so to say the 24th Century). Accordingly in DS9 to the stardate which was always refered throughout the series was 5000.00+ when the war began (mentionend earlier).

>I've understood the wiki what results to 2300 + a decade or more, then the calculation does fit in to 5000.00 + 10.00 or so as stardate with the lightyears & the distance in Earth-time to the location in space. Not today!

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You misinterpreted my example; If you read it more carefully maybe you would understand it. I used our time as an example, not for calculating stardates 100,200 or 300 years from now.


I indeed ment stardates 100, 200 & 300 years from now.

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 9:02 pm

I have no clue how to find out the current star date.

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Report this Apr. 05 2011, 9:02 pm

I have no clue how to find out the current star date.


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Report this Apr. 06 2011, 9:14 pm

Our stardate is, 2011.04, on Proxima Centauri it would be 2015.09 rite now, or something close to that.


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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 10:27 am

According to which series? I´ve read somewhere that the TOS stardate can be explained, as well as the later series´ stardate, but that they seriously bite each other :-)


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Report this Apr. 12 2011, 4:36 pm

Quote: konarciq @ Apr. 03 2011, 10:16 am

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>Are you talking about the stardate in TOS here? Because the numbers you´re using don´t seem to fit the stardates we get in TNG.

>Just recently, I´ve figured out TNG´s stardate. Purely mathematically, only related to our present standard western calendar. And not aware of any previous explanations either...

>Anyone interested in figuring out what stardate (last three digits plus first decimal) your birthday is?

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Not even the writers were sure on star dates; so you can't go by them because they differ in every series.


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Report this Apr. 12 2011, 4:38 pm

Quote: UFP2009 @ Apr. 06 2011, 9:14 pm

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>Our stardate is, 2011.04, on Proxima Centauri it would be 2015.09 rite now, or something close to that.

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I have the rite to post my opinions just like any body else.




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Report this Apr. 30 2011, 11:29 am

Quote: Treknoir @ Apr. 01 2011, 10:29 am

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>Actually, the original basis for "star dates" was pure BS.

>http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Stardate

>Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star TrekEdit

>The pilot was written by Samuel A. Peeples, who was interviewed by journalist Joel Engel for Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star Trek. [2] Replying to a newsgroup question on stardates, Engel quoted information from his book:

"For the starship captain's log entry narrations, Roddenberry wanted to devise a futuristic measurement of time reference. He called (Sam) Peeples (whom Roddenberry had contacted early on for help in learning about science fiction, a subject he knew nothing about; it was Peeples who wrote "Where No Man Has Gone Before," the pilot that sold ST). The two men had a few drinks while brainstorming, and soon began chuckling over their imaginative 'stardate' computations. 'We tried to set up a system that would be unidentified unless you knew how we did it,' Peeples says.
"They marked off sections on a pictorial depiction of the known universe and extrapolated how much earth time would elapse when traveling between given points, taking into account that the Enterprise's warp engines would be violating Einstein's theory that nothing could exceed the speed of light. They concluded that the 'time continuum' would therefore vary from place to place, and that earth time may actually be lost in travel. 'So the stardate on Earth would be one thing, but the stardate on Alpha Centauri would be different,' Peeples says. 'We thought this was hilarious, because everyone would say, "How come this date is before that date when this show is after that show?" The answer was because you were in a different sector of the universe.' [3]
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This was new and they quite possibly were not sure of what they were doing so they guessed alot. In reality, the distance between point a and b must be added in light years to the equation; because these ships are traveling to points in space and time is involved. So if you take away earths stardate from the equation, you can at least know how far from earth you are. So if you remove 2011.04 from 2027.12 you get 16.08 LYs which means you're at or near Vulcan ( 40 Eradni A ) or just 16.08 LYs away from earth in empty space.


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Report this May. 04 2011, 1:42 pm

Today is stardate 64804.7 if Post Voyager/DS9/ and TNG's shows were still airing.


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Report this May. 04 2011, 8:41 pm

Actually it would be more like stardate 72011.04; if they are 70,000 LYs away on Voyager.


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Milo T'Kairum Vega

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Report this May. 05 2011, 8:03 am

I don't think it honestly matters. You may have enjoyed yourself coming up with a scientific explanation and that's perfectly fine. You have your respects. But I don't think it's a topic that anyone needs to get passionate about when in the true reality of things: nothing about the stardates makes sense.


I firmly believe the stardates were put there for fictional purposes to make the viewers feel like someday: "hey! Maybe in 1 or 200 years we could be spouting smart sounding dates like that!"


I know that when I hear Picard and Kirk go on about "Stardate 8456.77(not real)" I feel smart. For what reason? I have NO idea. The human ego is a fabulous thing ;D


But I do find it interesting that you went and calcuted a plausible way to "explain" the stardates, that's some dedication. Considering I would never dream of doing such a thing. I like using the general "years" like 2233(Spocks birth), 24th century(tng). That makes it easy for me, and I work easier on that kind of timeline.


So, to each their own! ;3


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