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replicators vs borg

ownerer

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Report this Mar. 26 2011, 10:48 am

for those of you who are not aware there are replicators in stargate which are sort of similar to the borg but there are a number of differences , who would win?


 


including asurans and block form.

lnagr1

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Report this Mar. 26 2011, 4:08 pm

Wow that would be difficult to decide who would win!

___Lucifer___

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Report this Mar. 26 2011, 8:24 pm

Spider replicators alone could take the Borg. They have a defensive spray that melts through metal, which comprises most of a Borg Drone.


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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 7:22 am

a battle of the hive minds, would definatly be an interesting fight. however i would have to go with the replicators on this as, though the borg do have protective sheilds, there is no proof that those same shields are effective against upclose attacks. Borg adaptivity would also be useless as the replicators also adapt.


now this thread posses another question, and i hope that ownerer will not mind me asking this on his/her thread, there is another stargate villian that is kind of borg like in their quest to rule the galaxy, the Goa'uld. so my question, and it is one that i have asked many times before, what would be a worst fate Assimilated by the Borg or becoming a Goa'uld host?

ownerer

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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 10:12 am

i welcome any expansion on the topic, but i believe being a goa'uld host would be better becuase there is a lot higher chance of being rescued by the tokra (sorry for spelling) then there us of someone randomly rescuing a borg drone, and anyway the ex goa'uld get to use there technolegy, ex borg just look ugly and have tons of mechanical problems.


 


now , back on subject i think the borg have a lot more ships (unimatrixes and stuff) but the replicators control a lot more territory (multiple galaxies) when the borg only control not even a quater of the delta.

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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 1:14 pm

now , back on subject i think the borg have a lot more ships (unimatrixes and stuff) but the replicators control a lot more territory (multiple galaxies) when the borg only control not even a quater of the delta.


No, i don't think so. lets not forget that they were created by the andriod that SG1 found (Reese), and attempted to take over the Asgards home galaxy after that. A variation of them were also used by the Ancients as a possible means to battle the Raith in the Pegasus Galaxy (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Replicators). But beyond that i really don't think that they controlled any gallaxies of their own.

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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 6:35 pm


They don't say "Resistance is Futile" for nothing! 


Thus far (on-screen-land anyways) the Borg have had no problem assimilating technology; Species8472 had an impressive biological resistance to assimilation. The replicators are 100% machine/synthetic so I think the Borg would ultimately learn to control the replicators or maybe make use of some OMEGA molecules to annihilate them.  


I am a fan of both Star Trek and Stargate.  It would be interesting to see the Borg Queen showdown with the Replicator Carter; both royalty in the eyes of their subjects and both command a lot of firepower. 


As far as what would be worse, I personally think being a Goa’uld is much worse, as we have seen hosts that are thousands of years old.  On top of that a Goa’uld host retains a conscious memory of all the parasites’ atrocities; whereas a Borg drone is essentially numb to the horrors he/she is committing or has committed while under the Hives’ influence.  

ownerer

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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 7:31 pm

well i think a part of it comes down to raw technolegy , how much more powerful is a asguard beam then a federation lazer.


 


i feel that the people in the stargate universe have a lot more advanced technolegy due to the fact they can travel between galaxies pretty easily, even though in star treck they can barely get from one side of  a galaxy to the other.


back to the hoast subject , the borg dont live in much confort, but on the other hand the goa'uld live in luxry, that might have a effect.

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Report this Mar. 27 2011, 11:05 pm

i feel that the people in the stargate universe have a lot more advanced technolegy due to the fact they can travel between galaxies pretty easily, even though in star treck they can barely get from one side of  a galaxy to the other.


really, i thought it was because they reversed engineered Goa'uld and Ancient tech and because the Asgard gave them their entire database before killing themselves. Also to my knowledge they have only been to about half a dozen galaxies outside the Milkyway (The Asgard and Ori galaxies, Pegasus, and at least two others during the run of Universe. there might be one or two that i missed, but i think that i got the bulk of them). hardly from one side of the galaxy to the other.


BTW, forgive me for acting like a know it all, but i feel just as strongly about Stargate as i do about Startrek, and don't like it when people get their facts mixedup.


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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 1:26 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Mar. 27 2011, 11:05 pm

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> hardly from one side of the galaxy to the other.

>BTW, forgive me for acting like a know it all, but i feel just as strongly about Stargate as i do about Startrek, and don't like it when people get their facts mixedup.

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Earth ships in stargate routinly make suply runs between atlantis and earth , taking about a month, there is no way in hell that the enterprise (any of them , take your pick) could do that( without help from Q or something like that). FYI atlantis is in another galaxie.


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Camorite

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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 3:19 pm

Stargate's hyperdrive system is also based more on the one used in Star War's , which uses a corador/wormhole to travle from place to place, then the one in Star Trek. this also makes a difference.

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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 3:52 pm

what would be a worst fate Assimilated by the Borg or becoming a Goa'uld host?


I think I'd take my chances with the Borg; at least there's a small possibility that I'll be able to access Unimatrix Zero.

___Lucifer___

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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 4:00 pm

Thus far (on-screen-land anyways) the Borg have had no problem assimilating technology


They were unable to assimilate Data in Star Trek: First Contact.


 


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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 4:11 pm

...or maybe make use of some OMEGA molecules to annihilate them.  


After the Borg synthesized a single molecule of Omega, it remained stable for one-trillionth of a nanosecond. The resultant explosion destroyed 29 Borg vessels with 600,000 drones lost. I don't see how you think the Borg would be able to use Omega as a weapon when they are unable to control it.


 


___Lucifer___

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Report this Mar. 28 2011, 4:24 pm

a Borg drone is essentially numb to the horrors he/she is committing or has committed while under the Hives’ influence.   


Wrong. Picard struggled against his assimilation as revealed in "Family."


Picard: You don't know, Robert. You don't know. They took everything I was. They used me to kill and to destroy, and I couldn't stop them. I should have been able to stop them! I tried. I tried so hard, but I wasn't strong enough. I wasn't good enough. I should have been able to stop them. I should! I should!


Also, in ST:FC, Picard resisted the advances of the Borg queen, even while under assimilation as Locutus:


PICARD: Offering myself? ...That's it. I remember now. It wasn't enough that you assimilate me. I had to give myself freely to the Borg, ...to you.
BORG QUEEN: You flatter yourself. I've overseen the assimilation of countless millions. You were no different.
PICARD: You're lying. You wanted more than just another Borg drone. You wanted a human being with a mind of his own, who could bridge the gulf between humanity and the Borg. You wanted a counterpart, but I resisted. I fought you.


 




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