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i've always wonder why fed ships don't unload torpedoes on enemy ships

tribblenator999

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 10:41 am

I watch the trek shows and movies and I've always wondered why fed ships go straight for phasers when fighting enemy ships. Or they use torpedoes when they're already wrecked by the enemy ships. They never go straight for torpedoes and keep firing them until the enemy ship blows up. OPinions?

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 11:05 am

I would think because they have a limited supply of Torpedoes and they want to save them because phasers are unlimited as long as they have the power.


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 11:17 am

Quote: JaydenJaneway @ Mar. 18 2011, 11:05 am

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>I would think because they have a limited supply of Torpedoes and they want to save them because phasers are unlimited as long as they have the power.

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that problem was exclusive only to voyager. I mean if you got replicators and anti-matter a team of engineers I don't see why you can't replace them. Unless voyager characters were retarded.


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 11:26 am

You don't need to DESTROY ships to make your point. Just some warning shots might do the trick, unless of course you're in a battle with the Borg or something. I dont' know, that's just what I think.


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 11:27 am

All federation ships only have a limited supply of torpedoes until they return to a space dock or starbase to have them replenished. The enterprise E ran out of torpedoes in Nemesis. But i also believe the reason why they use phasers first is to drain the other ships shields first. torpedoes won't do that much damage if their shields are intact. it's just a thought


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 11:32 am

Quote: JaydenJaneway @ Mar. 18 2011, 11:27 am

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>All federation ships only have a limited supply of torpedoes until they return to a space dock or starbase to have them replenished. The enterprise E ran out of torpedoes in Nemesis. But i also believe the reason why they use phasers first is to drain the other ships shields first. torpedoes won't do that much damage if their shields are intact. it's just a thought

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that is interesting. phasers do more damage to shields than torpedoes.


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 12:10 pm

Jayden is correct. To get maximum use of the projectile weapons, you first want to weaken shields first. Even then, you only use torpedoes when you want to destroy your target.

Even though you could make torpedoes, I imagine they would be replicated in sub assemblies and put together. That requires time. Replicating an entire torpedo, which they should be able to do if they can replicate a human would be a massive power drain during red alert, of course then you would have to transport the torp to the tube, which requires more work and time.

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 2:03 pm

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>I would think because they have a limited supply of Torpedoes and they want to save them because phasers are unlimited as long as they have the power.

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that problem was exclusive only to voyager. I mean if you got replicators and anti-matter a team of engineers I don't see why you can't replace them. Unless voyager characters were retarded.

 

Not true. Ships only carry a limited amount of material to make things with, so refer back to JaydenJaneway's remark.


 


but i thought the crew can beam down to planets and get raw materials?


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 2:04 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 18 2011, 12:10 pm

>Jayden is correct. To get maximum use of the projectile weapons, you first want to weaken shields first. Even then, you only use torpedoes when you want to destroy your target. Even though you could make torpedoes, I imagine they would be replicated in sub assemblies and put together. That requires time. Replicating an entire torpedo, which they should be able to do if they can replicate a human would be a massive power drain during red alert, of course then you would have to transport the torp to the tube, which requires more work and time.


interesting idea. I wonder what the crew does when they're not having battles. Since all this torpedo assembly task is so tedious.


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 2:35 pm

Let's all remember an important point about the Federation and Starfleet, they are explorers who use their weapons defensively, regardless of how often Kirk was willing to shoot first and ask questions later. They were perfectly fine in hitting an enemy ship with a few well placed phaser rounds and getting him to run off without destroying every enemy they came across. Photons are the big guns, and might do more damage than a captain would want if he just wants the other guy to stop shooting him.


It might also be a range issue, perhaps torpedoes are better at hitting an enemy ship at close range, where a phaser can hit at further ranges, but do less damage. And going back to my original point, maybe a couple of long range phaser shots might convince the enemy ship to not get any closer.

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 2:51 pm

Quote: coastcityo @ Mar. 18 2011, 2:35 pm

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>Let's all remember an important point about the Federation and Starfleet, they are explorers who use their weapons defensively, regardless of how often Kirk was willing to shoot first and ask questions later. They were perfectly fine in hitting an enemy ship with a few well placed phaser rounds and getting him to run off without destroying every enemy they came across. Photons are the big guns, and might do more damage than a captain would want if he just wants the other guy to stop shooting him.

>It might also be a range issue, perhaps torpedoes are better at hitting an enemy ship at close range, where a phaser can hit at further ranges, but do less damage. And going back to my original point, maybe a couple of long range phaser shots might convince the enemy ship to not get any closer.

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yeah you do pose a good point.  Self-defense doesn't give you much room for brutality.  I thought torpedoes were the long range weapons?


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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 5:32 pm

I love it when they blow up other ships! And then they get really badly damaged! Hey, the should beam the tordedoes out of the ships when they have their shields down!

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 7:14 pm

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>I love it when they blow up other ships! And then they get really badly damaged! Hey, the should beam the tordedoes out of the ships when they have their shields down!

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what's with the emoticon. what's wrong wtih explosions.


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Report this Mar. 19 2011, 10:40 am

really to destroy an enemy ship you just have to knock out their life support. once the crew starts to die off, you dont need any weapons at all. no need to obliterate the ship.


...but it would be in the Federations regulation to beam survivors to your ship. ...and the right thing to do. unless they are borg.


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Report this Mar. 19 2011, 10:45 am

Quote: janewayjunkie74656 @ Mar. 18 2011, 11:26 am

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>You don't need to DESTROY ships to make your point. Just some warning shots might do the trick, unless of course you're in a battle with the Borg or something. I dont' know, that's just what I think.

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Precisely, they will defend them selves but nothing more. The UFP upholds the exact definition of selfdefense, enough force to prevent further attacks and no more.


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