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A Director's Edition for Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Ali88

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Report this Mar. 17 2011, 8:39 am

Remember back in 2002 when William Shatner asked Paramount for some money to do a director's edition for Star Trek V in order to improve the movie but the studio refused- that was a mistake.


Star Trek V deserved a director's edition- it would have improved the film a lot IMO- a totally missed opportunity to turn a bad movie into something a lot better. I think the studio owed Shatner a director's edition cause the studio was the real reason why the movie turned out to be so bad.


Remember Orson Welles' Touch of Evil when Universal studio interfered with the movie and made their own version of it before it was first released but then the movie was restored back to Orson's version of the movie- how he wanted it to be- and Orson's version turned out to be better than the studio's.


Star Trek V is only about 1 hour and 30 minutes long but the original version of the movie was over 2 hours, the original filmed ending was longer and there were more dark and serious scenes with Sybok and stuff but Paramount forced shatner to cut those scenes out in favour of shortening the movie and making it less dark and more lightened up.


If I was to do a director's edition for the movie, this what I would have done:


Refilm all the special effects sequences


Cut out all the bad humour like Scotty bumping his head and Checkov and Sulu checking out the klingon woman and cut out all the awful lines like "Hi Bones mind if we drop in for dinner" and "please captain, not in front of the Klingons"


Restore all the good deleted scenes back in


Restore the original ending with the rock monsters or make it something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95vdk0mYy0


More specifically:


Replace the opening credits sequence with what Shatner originally wanted:


When Sybok begins to laugh in the opening scene, the scene fades away to show the milky way galaxy itself and then zooms all the way in through the galaxy until it shows Earth itself in the solar system and then zooms down through the planet until it shows Yosemite national park and finally zooms down to show Kirk free climbing El Capitan


Remove the part where Uhura flirts with Scotty on the bridge and begin the scene with the red alert going off


Remove Harve Bennett from the viewscreen and have a new actor to take his place with new dialogue, saying that the enterprise is the only ship in range and that the Excelsior is still in repairs in a dry dock after Scotty's sabotage on it from Star Trek III


Cut out the malfunctioning captain's log moment


Cut out the Uhura fan dance scene and replace it with a new scene showing a different version of how the landing party captures the horsemen


Change the klingon attack scene to show Klaa opening fire on the shuttlecraft rather than on the enterprise


Cut out the morse code- STAND BACK moment


Digitally change the deck numbers in the turboshaft scene


Cut out the scene with Uhura and Scotty in sickbay and replace with something simple like the enterprise warping through space


Replace George Murdock with a new actor as "God" with new and better dialogue


Change the final scene with what Shatner originally wanted:


As Kirk, Spock and McCoy sing around the campfire, the scene goes into a Powers of ten zoom out shot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm3QVKlBJg

KelisThePoet

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Report this Mar. 17 2011, 11:23 am

I don't know.  I've heard Shatner lament in an interview that this movie was ruined by the absence of rock men in the big final battle.


Don't misunderstand me, I love Shatner and I think Star Trek V is a fun, watchable movie, but somehow, when I ask myself what this movie is missing, the answer isn't rock men.


Falor was a prosperous merchant who went on a journey to gain greater awareness: Through storms he crossed the Voroth Sea/ To reach the clouded shores of Raal/ Where old T’Para offered truth./ He traveled through the windswept hills/ And crossed the barren Fire Plains/ To find the silent monks of Kir./ Still unfulfilled, he journeyed home/ Told stories of the lessons learned/ And gained true wisdom by the giving. – Falor’s Journey, “Innocence”

Vger23

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Report this Mar. 17 2011, 12:07 pm

I agree that Trek V seems to be begging for an overhaul. I've always enjoyed it very much, but I can't help but see some of the flaws and recognize how much better it could have been given some better visual effects, a tighter script, and some modified / edited dialogue.


That being said, there are some fan edits on YouTube that you might find very interesting. Some of them are kind of bogus...some of them are really good and contain good CGI upgrades. Check it out. 

OneDamnMinuteAdmiral

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Report this Mar. 17 2011, 5:38 pm

Quote: Ali88 @ Mar. 17 2011, 8:39 am

>

>Remember back in 2002 when William Shatner asked Paramount for some money to do a director's edition for Star Trek V in order to improve the movie but the studio refused- that was a mistake.

>Star Trek V deserved a director's edition- it would have improved the film a lot IMO- a totally missed opportunity to turn a bad movie into something a lot better. I think the studio owed Shatner a director's edition cause the studio was the real reason why the movie turned out to be so bad.

>Remember Orson Welles' Touch of Evil when Universal studio interfered with the movie and made their own version of it before it was first released but then the movie was restored back to Orson's version of the movie- how he wanted it to be- and Orson's version turned out to be better than the studio's.

>Star Trek V is only about 1 hour and 30 minutes long but the original version of the movie was over 2 hours, the original filmed ending was longer and there were more dark and serious scenes with Sybok and stuff but Paramount forced shatner to cut those scenes out in favour of shortening the movie and making it less dark and more lightened up.

>If I was to do a director's edition for the movie, this what I would have done:

>Refilm all the special effects sequences

>Cut out all the bad humour like Scotty bumping his head and Checkov and Sulu checking out the klingon woman and cut out all the awful lines like "Hi Bones mind if we drop in for dinner" and "please captain, not in front of the Klingons"

>Restore all the good deleted scenes back in

>Restore the original ending with the rock monsters or make it something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95vdk0mYy0

>More specifically:

>Replace the opening credits sequence with what Shatner originally wanted:

>When Sybok begins to laugh in the opening scene, the scene fades away to show the milky way galaxy itself and then zooms all the way in through the galaxy until it shows Earth itself in the solar system and then zooms down through the planet until it shows Yosemite national park and finally zooms down to show Kirk free climbing El Capitan

>Remove the part where Uhura flirts with Scotty on the bridge and begin the scene with the red alert going off

>Remove Harve Bennett from the viewscreen and have a new actor to take his place with new dialogue, saying that the enterprise is the only ship in range and that the Excelsior is still in repairs in a dry dock after Scotty's sabotage on it from Star Trek III

>Cut out the malfunctioning captain's log moment

>Cut out the Uhura fan dance scene and replace it with a new scene showing a different version of how the landing party captures the horsemen

>Change the klingon attack scene to show Klaa opening fire on the shuttlecraft rather than on the enterprise

>Cut out the morse code- STAND BACK moment

>Digitally change the deck numbers in the turboshaft scene

>Cut out the scene with Uhura and Scotty in sickbay and replace with something simple like the enterprise warping through space

>Replace George Murdock with a new actor as "God" with new and better dialogue

>Change the final scene with what Shatner originally wanted:

>As Kirk, Spock and McCoy sing around the campfire, the scene goes into a Powers of ten zoom out shot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm3QVKlBJg

>


So basically you just want to reshoot the whole movie?


Are you sure it isn't time for a colorful metaphor?

lnagr1

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Report this Mar. 18 2011, 1:54 am

Star trek V wasnt very good, it kinda sucked so yeah..........

UFP2009

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Report this Mar. 31 2011, 9:21 am

Quote: Ali88 @ Mar. 17 2011, 8:39 am

>

>Remember back in 2002 when William Shatner asked Paramount for some money to do a director's edition for Star Trek V in order to improve the movie but the studio refused- that was a mistake.

>Star Trek V deserved a director's edition- it would have improved the film a lot IMO- a totally missed opportunity to turn a bad movie into something a lot better. I think the studio owed Shatner a director's edition cause the studio was the real reason why the movie turned out to be so bad.

>Remember Orson Welles' Touch of Evil when Universal studio interfered with the movie and made their own version of it before it was first released but then the movie was restored back to Orson's version of the movie- how he wanted it to be- and Orson's version turned out to be better than the studio's.

>Star Trek V is only about 1 hour and 30 minutes long but the original version of the movie was over 2 hours, the original filmed ending was longer and there were more dark and serious scenes with Sybok and stuff but Paramount forced shatner to cut those scenes out in favour of shortening the movie and making it less dark and more lightened up.

>If I was to do a director's edition for the movie, this what I would have done:

>Refilm all the special effects sequences

>Cut out all the bad humour like Scotty bumping his head and Checkov and Sulu checking out the klingon woman and cut out all the awful lines like "Hi Bones mind if we drop in for dinner" and "please captain, not in front of the Klingons"

>Restore all the good deleted scenes back in

>Restore the original ending with the rock monsters or make it something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95vdk0mYy0

>More specifically:

>Replace the opening credits sequence with what Shatner originally wanted:

>When Sybok begins to laugh in the opening scene, the scene fades away to show the milky way galaxy itself and then zooms all the way in through the galaxy until it shows Earth itself in the solar system and then zooms down through the planet until it shows Yosemite national park and finally zooms down to show Kirk free climbing El Capitan

>Remove the part where Uhura flirts with Scotty on the bridge and begin the scene with the red alert going off

>Remove Harve Bennett from the viewscreen and have a new actor to take his place with new dialogue, saying that the enterprise is the only ship in range and that the Excelsior is still in repairs in a dry dock after Scotty's sabotage on it from Star Trek III

>Cut out the malfunctioning captain's log moment

>Cut out the Uhura fan dance scene and replace it with a new scene showing a different version of how the landing party captures the horsemen

>Change the klingon attack scene to show Klaa opening fire on the shuttlecraft rather than on the enterprise

>Cut out the morse code- STAND BACK moment

>Digitally change the deck numbers in the turboshaft scene

>Cut out the scene with Uhura and Scotty in sickbay and replace with something simple like the enterprise warping through space

>Replace George Murdock with a new actor as "God" with new and better dialogue

>Change the final scene with what Shatner originally wanted:

>As Kirk, Spock and McCoy sing around the campfire, the scene goes into a Powers of ten zoom out shot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm3QVKlBJg

>
I agree 100%! That movie could go from so, so to very good; and yes, the special effects have to be redone. I don't understand why Shatner didn't put up the rest of the money; isn't he a multimillionaire?


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