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lnagr1

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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 8:26 pm

I'd like to understand!

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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 9:08 pm

star date 1024.7 =2264


stardate 9521.6= 2293


so a span of 8500 stardate = 30 years


so tng should be stardate 29326.6 but no tng is on stardate 41153.7 (2364) and nemesis takes place on 56844.9 (2380).  Nemesis barely takes place 15-16 years later after tng. Nemesis should end on 45403.7


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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 10:47 pm

Do I understand them?  No.  But do I expect the writers to?  Yes.


Memory Alpha has a long article about them here: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Stardate


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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 11:30 pm

thx 4 that its been botherin me for a while!!!!

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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 12:05 pm

I'm not sure anyone understands them, they seem to just pull them out of a hat.


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 12:34 pm

Stardates don't actually have any corellation to our time-date system. they were simply a way for the writers to show that the show was taking place in the future. (as if the "starships" weren't enough)


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 12:38 pm

It's all BS, literally:


Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star TrekEdit Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star Trek sectionEdit


The pilot was written by Samuel A. Peeples, who was interviewed by journalist Joel Engel for Gene Roddenberry: The Myth and the Man Behind Star Trek. [2] Replying to a newsgroup question on stardates, Engel quoted information from his book:


"For the starship captain's log entry narrations, Roddenberry wanted to devise a futuristic measurement of time reference. He called (Sam) Peeples (whom Roddenberry had contacted early on for help in learning about science fiction, a subject he knew nothing about; it was Peeples who wrote "Where No Man Has Gone Before," the pilot that sold ST). The two men had a few drinks while brainstorming, and soon began chuckling over their imaginative 'stardate' computations. 'We tried to set up a system that would be unidentified unless you knew how we did it,' Peeples says.


"They marked off sections on a pictorial depiction of the known universe and extrapolated how much earth time would elapse when traveling between given points, taking into account that the Enterprise's warp engines would be violating Einstein's theory that nothing could exceed the speed of light. They concluded that the 'time continuum' would therefore vary from place to place, and that earth time may actually be lost in travel. 'So the stardate on Earth would be one thing, but the stardate on Alpha Centauri would be different,' Peeples says. 'We thought this was hilarious, because everyone would say, "How come this date is before that date when this show is after that show?" The answer was because you were in a different sector of the universe.' [3]


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 3:07 pm

According to my Trek Ticker for google desktop its the TOS stardate of 4578.54 and for TNG its stardate 88195.40 so figure that one out.


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Report this Apr. 03 2011, 9:48 pm

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I'd like to understand!


I believe that the creators of ST meant for the star date to signify Sol or earth time in relation to distance of the destination using the light year as measurement of time but traveling much faster. For instance, star date 2300.07(23rd century and 7 months) plus distance to Proxima Centauri, 4.05 light years added to 2300.07 = 2304.12. star date is now 2304.12; Let's say you stay at P.C. for a year, that equals 2305.12; now you wanna go back to Sol, so you take 2305.12 and subtract 4.05 Light years = Sol star date 2301.07, of course adding a few of months to be precise. This is how I believe the star date is calculated.


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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 10:46 am

TNG stardate (my version )


1 year equals 1000 units. This is consistent with the characters´ development (Wesley for example!) and the mention of the years in the series.


That means that 1 earthday (24 hours) equals 2.739726 units for the stardate.


Following this calculation, January 1st 2364 at 23.59 hours is stardate 41002.7. By multiplying the number of days with the factor 2.739726, you can figure out the stardate at 23.59 hours of every day of the year.


For example: February 1st, 2364 would give 32 times 2.739726 is 41087.


October 1st, 2364 would be 274 times 2.739726 makes stardate 41750.


And that same date in the year 2365 would be 42750.


TNG´s first season has stardates in the 41000, so this particular type of stardate started in 2364-41 = 2343.


The only thing that really messes it up is Tasha´s death. The stardates of TNG´s first season seem to be given rather randomly. When you put the eps in stardate order according to the logic of the rest of the series, Tasha appears several times after she died And nobody thinks anything of it!


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Report this Apr. 07 2011, 8:19 pm

What makes a stardate is our stardate, Sol  added to another solar system's distance from our's or a point in space in light years.


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Report this Apr. 08 2011, 5:49 pm

I don't know why they didn't use 'real' dates instead.  That would have put things in a little more context.  For instance, to say the Dominon War started on stardate 50975.2 means nothing to me, but if you say it started in 2373 I can relate.

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Report this Apr. 08 2011, 5:58 pm

Today is Stardate 64734. This would be the stardate if Voyager or Post Voyager series was still on the air.


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Report this Apr. 08 2011, 8:16 pm

Quote: JaydenJaneway @ Apr. 08 2011, 5:58 pm

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>Today is Stardate 64734. This would be the stardate if Voyager or Post Voyager series was still on the air.

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I'm talking reality here, not some syfy world you may be living in.


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Report this Apr. 09 2011, 6:21 am

Quote: lnagr1 @ Mar. 11 2011, 8:26 pm

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>I'd like to understand!

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You have to throw in the distance in light years from Sol to your destination into the equation.


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