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Republicans' Immoral Budget

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 4:04 pm

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>Well - Rusty agrees with Obama - he's the King and doesn't have to uphold any LAWS he doesn't want to!  And since Randy seems to thinks that Executive Order trumps laws.... why even have congress?

>- hello!!! George W. Bush and all the powers he just used as an Executive; did i say i agree with it? no. put is that just the way it is? yes.

>- just look up all the Executive Orders we live under today, that get reinstated by every president, all of them.  Congress has the power to over turn them put they choose not to ... look it up yourself.

>- and rich perry the "republican" governor of Texas pretty much does the same thing all the timer. is enforcing this one law or regulation costing too much money and time and effort? then just instruct the Attorney General to STOP PROSECUTING THOSE CRIMES. sounds crazy, but that is the way it is done at the state level and none of the bam bams of the world speak up about that ... so they just use things to their own ends and rhetoric.
It's amazing how you're so quick to point out how your enemies don't enforce the law, but it's still okay if your messiah doesn't.  If it's a law, it must be enforced, or it's not a law.  There are no kings in this country.


Remember reading about the Hamilton plan that was presented during the Constitutional convention?  The members completely REJECTED it!  No King!


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 4:09 pm

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>I guess Rusty doesn't understand why the USA didn't create the position of king...

>- hello W. Bush doing whatever he wanted to and none of you spoke up. America doesn't have a King but we do have a Commander and Chief, and he can declare Marshall law and do whatever he wants to. just the facts, we don't like to admit it, put read the freaking laws.

>- how do you think W. Bush got away with all he did?


Actually, we did speak up - thousands and thousands of us did (and we continue.)  Just because you ignore us doing it doesn't mean it's not being done.  What I think is really telling is all the leftists hated the Patriot Act, but now that they're in the White House.... it's great because it gives them power.


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 4:16 pm

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>And isn't it amazing how socialists absolutely love their king in the whitehouse, but really get upset when someone else in the whitehouse who doesn't follow the laws????  Just another example of their duplicity.

>- i never said i supported these actions, all i said was that the truth is different than what you believe it is. you think the World and America are things that they are not ... that simple.

>- you think an executive HAS to do stuff ... but that is not true; if Obama was doing something so wrong and unusual then why has not Congress acted? because it is SOP for the executive. 


SOP = CORRUPTION.  It's a complete abuse of power.  Just because it is that was doesn't mean we need to accept it.


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 4:20 pm

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>- and the he calls me "RRRAAANNNDDYYYYYY"; but i am the one that is "trolling for a fight", yeah right. he must be a child.
Sorry about that - I don't know why I've typed "Randy" a couple of times - I guess it's it's the way you act here - very randy.  It may be a Freudian slip on my part, but no excuse.


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Report this Mar. 12 2011, 4:24 pm

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>Your water?!?? You really ignore real life, don't you?  People have been using water for the crops for millenia.

>-i do not ignore real life, i am very familiar with the details.

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- example is Texas, San Antonio has been having a water shortage for years and they knew it was coming for decades, they tries (like Houston before them) to annex surrounding regions to obtain sources of water. they were not successful, they continue to affect Texas law to benefit themselves at the expense of the surrounding peoples that planned for their water needs and possible droughts. 

>- the surrounding regions limited population growth through taxation systems that encouraged only commercial and population growth they could "water"; when they needed more money they raised taxes and did not encourage commercial growth by reducing taxes.

>- San Antonio encouraged massive population and commercial growth for decades, also the city was placed in a region that couldn't support millions, they are now trying to use their commercial influence,money, size and population to "take" water from other regions to "water" their people. 

>- they are now putting commercials up of families, white and Hispanic people talking about how much their water bill is costing their family and causing suffering. the city of San Antonio planned for their future badly and now they are trying to take water from those communities that planned for this scenario. other cities planned for growth and sacrificed growth when they could not support it.

>- you talk about "personal responsibility" and such, but when "capitalists" sacrifice wisdom for growth and attract more people than they can "water" they try and take away water from responsible communities that decided "water" was more important than "growth". 

>- your ethic is not consistent ... when we are responsible we are preventing some farmer in another state from being "productive" and when we are not responsible we are still preventing people in other states from being "productive" through taxes.  the dreaded and feared taxes!!!!

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If there's not enough resources, the people can move.


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Report this Mar. 13 2011, 7:15 am

Rusty: "people mistake the argument for "organic" foods as one that says "they are healthier when in fact the argument for "organics" has always been the need to reduce the amount of nitrogen containing compounds into the water systems"."


caltrek: I thought both arguments were true. Don't many nutritionists believe that organically grown food does tend to be healthier?


Rusty: "as for the drinking water issue it is not really a civil works or public issue since a lot of public drinking water is treated. but i get your point."


caltrek: The treatment needed for water that exceeds Maximum Contaminant Levels for nitrates is considerably more expensive than the ordinary treatment in place for most water systems. People often think that because drinking water is treated, all potential contaminants are addressed. In fact, the presence of different contaminants often involves different types of treatment. This affects the amount consumers pay in their water bills.


This is another example of how corporations internalize profits while externalizing costs by making the greater society pay for those costs. That is why so many regulations are in place in regards to industrial processes. Were they absent, some businesses would take advantage of their absence pursuing cheaper more polluting ways of production. A race to the bottom would ensue, with those producing the greatest harm able to produce goods at the .lowest cost, and thus having an edge over their more responsible competitors. That is why businesses themselves sometimes welcome regulations, so that they can act in a responsible manner with out a compettive disadvantage and preserve the image of their industry.


A lot of libertarians don't seem to understand that dynamic. 


In the case of nitrates, fertilizer is such an integral part of farming, that the industry has escaped government restrictions on its application. However, the organic farming movement has made headway here in the U.S. in establishing standards for what can be labeled as "organic".  So consumers can buy such food with some assurance that they are not the vicitms of false advertising.


 

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Report this Mar. 13 2011, 7:39 am

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>No - the people are capable of doing things for themselves and making their own decisions.

>- what about decisions for other people in other states?

>- the world is even less simple than you think.

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The world is "less simple" than I think?  If so, then man absolutely can rule themselves!!!  The answer is never absolute government.  If we use your logic, then there would be no USA because wht other countries do affect us, so we would have to have a single world govenment - absolutely no national sovereignty.


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Report this Mar. 13 2011, 7:42 am

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>It's amazing how you're so quick to point out how your enemies don't enforce the law, but it's still okay if your messiah doesn't.  If it's a law, it must be enforced, or it's not a law.  There are no kings in this country. - wrong on all counts. - they sound nice though. - Prince Yi Jung-hun (born 1980), the only son of King Yi Seok who is planning a career in IT. He is living in the United States. -there is at least ONE future king living in the United States, and many others.
- how many members of the royal family bin laden belongs to were living in America when we were attacked? no Kings in America Indeed. 
Now you're just trying to joke about a serious issue.  We're not talking about kings and future kings of OTHER countries - we're talking about absolute power over this country.  The USA is not a kingdom.


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Report this Mar. 13 2011, 10:17 am

having children is not always a choice or an option.   Rusty.


 


It's ALWAYS a choice.  Takes two. 

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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 8:16 am

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>having children is not always a choice or an option.   Rusty.

>It's ALWAYS a choice.  Takes two. 

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- wrong again ... incestuous rape, etc.

Well, Rusty gets a partial point there, but thankfully that is an extremely limited situation (although still too much) - way less than .001% of babies.


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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 6:34 pm

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>having children is not always a choice or an option.   Rusty.

>It's ALWAYS a choice.  Takes two. 

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- wrong again ... incestuous rape, etc.


 


Wow, incestous rape is so common and a bigger problem than I thought. Really, were you saving that one? 


 


For most humans, rape victims excluded, a remarkably small percentage, it requires two willing people of age to make another human life. 


I need a permit to work on my own home, a licence to drive my car, a whole host of paperwork and permits to do a great many things, but two assclowns with the right set of plumbing can create a human life. 


Hardly seems fair that parents don't have to pass some kind of test. Oh well at the rate the stupid folks are breeding we're doomed anyway.


Let the bridges I burn light the way. You are special, just like everybody else. Calling an illegal alien an ‘undocumented immigrant’ is like calling a drug dealer an ‘unlicensed pharmacist’

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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 7:09 pm

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>I need a permit to work on my own home, a licence to drive my car, a whole host of paperwork and permits to do a great many things, but two assclowns with the right set of plumbing can create a human life. 

>Hardly seems fair that parents don't have to pass some kind of test. Oh well at the rate the stupid folks are breeding we're doomed anyway.
Don't give them any more ideas.


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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 8:59 pm

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>I need a permit to work on my own home, a licence to drive my car, a whole host of paperwork and permits to do a great many things, but two assclowns with the right set of plumbing can create a human life. 

>Hardly seems fair that parents don't have to pass some kind of test. Oh well at the rate the stupid folks are breeding we're doomed anyway.
Don't give them any more ideas.

- so now they are calling "people" stupid and that babies are bad.

- they attack me for implying that people are ignorant and then fold on their own rhetoric when it suits them to attack people.

 

- oh and bam bam is a 1,000% off and wrong again ... abortions caused by incest 1% ... abortions caused by rape 3%.

- they can't let facts get in the way of their agendas.

And once again, Rusty twists things.  He never said that babies are "bad."  We're talking about babies and he doesn't like the numbers, so he switches to abortions.


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