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Mar. 03 2011, 12:36 pm
At the moment I am watching DS9 season 2 episodes.
In episode 10 (Sactuary) there is a Bajoran musician called Verani who doesn't wear an earring. Infact his noseribs are barely visible either. So first I thought he was not Bajoran. Later it turns out he his.
In episode 12 (The Alternate) Dr. Mora, the Bajoran scientist who adopted Odo, does not wear an earring too.
Now why is that? I thought ALL Bajorans wore earrings regardless of their status or something.
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Mar. 03 2011, 5:22 pm
Probaly for the same reason, because of that in early seasons the rinkled nose was more pronaunced that in later ones. At least that Larin Ro had the left ear pearced, and Li Nalas earing was for a reason carried out of the labour camp.
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Mar. 03 2011, 8:27 pm
Didn't Bajoran earrings have something to do with their religion? It could be possible that those Bajorans who are not as strongly attatched to their religion, or if they were somehow forbidden to practice it, would not wear the earring. I somehow can't see a nonreligious Bajoran, though. The Bajorans in general are a strongly religious people... I'm just taking a guess here, haven't seen all of DS9 yet.
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Mar. 03 2011, 9:39 pm
We can only guess, Mauin but I would say that your analysis is sound.
I have also noticed that no children wear earrings, but this might have something to do with a rite of passage that people only get earrings once they reach a certain age and level of maturity.
The DS9 relaunch puts forward an interesting reason for why Ro Laren (she would totally pound you for calling her "Laren Ro", Moppy !! But I won't tell if you don't.) may wear her earring on the left instead of right ear ~~ as later proves to be customary.
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Mar. 04 2011, 4:33 am
Maulin is right, Bajorans without faith wore no earring. Worshipers of the pah wraiths wore it on the opposite ear. Ro did too, this was to show respect to her culture but signify she had no faith.
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Mar. 04 2011, 10:38 am
Yeah, I was about to say... The Bajoran Earings are a sign of their faith... anyone who does not share the faith does not wear an earing...
I would've thought that that musician guy would've shared the Bajoran faith... he just strikes me as the religious type.
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Mar. 04 2011, 10:45 am
Not in the first episode that featured Laren Ro (lolololol). Religion was never mentioned, which is why Riker was yelling at Ro to take off her earring. Originally it was just an earring but it later grew into a cultural brainbug for the Bajorans in the DS9 years.
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Mar. 04 2011, 6:22 pm
Pah Wraith worshippers also wear the red earrings, of course.
It can also signify identify ~~ as Kira was able to identify Li Nalas by the insignia on his earring.
Interesting that the Bajoran ex-Maquis guy in Voyager was also made to remove his earring. I liken it to muslim girls in France who were expelled from school for wearing their headscarves.
A rather ignorant move for the apparently culturally accepting Federation!
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Mar. 04 2011, 6:39 pm
Quote: OtakuJo @ Mar. 04 2011, 6:22 pm | >
>Pah Wraith worshippers also wear the red earrings, of course.
>It can also signify identify ~~ as Kira was able to identify Li Nalas by the insignia on his earring.
>Interesting that the Bajoran ex-Maquis guy in Voyager was also made to remove his earring. I liken it to muslim girls in France who were expelled from school for wearing their headscarves.
>A rather ignorant move for the apparently culturally accepting Federation!
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Fascinating. We were just talking about that topic in my Social class, about the Muslim girls in France. I'm amazed that thought about the Bajoran hadn't popped into my mind.
You've got a point there, though. That was ignorant of the Federation to do. I guess they aren't as accepting as they claim to be. I don't see any logical reason to force the Bajoran to remove his earring, except for the fact that it did not "meet regulations."
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Mar. 05 2011, 5:43 am
It wasn't ignorance it was dress protocol. Ro Larin had to remove her earring in TNG. That was before the cultural distinction was created by the writers, but it still counts.
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Mar. 05 2011, 6:56 pm
^ I tend to think that it was both. Also if you think about it, the Bajoran Maquis guy from Voyager did not choose to find himself in "Starfleet". Also I can't imagine that such instances would be helpful to Ben Sisko's agenda of getting Bajor into the Federation either.
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Mar. 05 2011, 7:04 pm
No one seems to have a problem with Klingon honor sashes or whatever they're called. And they're not religious in nature.
I call discrimination.
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Mar. 05 2011, 7:40 pm
Quote: OtakuJo @ Mar. 05 2011, 6:56 pm | >
>^ I tend to think that it was both.
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I think you missing the point if you mean that a muslime girl had to remove her headscarves and that though like this Ro Laren had no faith. That would mean the religous freedom was being violated which is actualy a human right in all governments. What conlcudes to follow the protocol on the Enterprise - D that a SF officer wouldn't have pierced the left ear, because it's the uniform code.
I had ment by "the same reason" posted previously that it was not only a a Bajoran without earring like Dr. Mora had none likewise the less prenounced rinkled nose in later seasons.
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Mar. 06 2011, 1:01 am
Thanks for all anwers. This enlightens things.
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Mar. 07 2011, 5:39 am
Quote: Harpo75 @ Mar. 05 2011, 5:43 am | It wasn't ignorance it was dress protocol. Ro Larin had to remove her earring in TNG. That was before the cultural distinction was created by the writers, but it still counts. |
Yet worf could rear his sash? How was this not a bigger violation?
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