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What should be the new ST TV series Be?

Lieutenant_Jedi

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:36 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Mar. 03 2011, 4:59 am

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>At this point, honestly...I don't even care. I'll sign up for ANYTHING if it will halt the practice of having threads like this posted out here once per day.

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Agree. There are at least thirty threads on this subject, all with similar responses. 


Plenty of ideas to go around. 


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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:49 am

For what it's worth, this is what I offered up on the subject on one of the other thirty threads. I think it reflects my thoughts well...


 


1.       It needs to maintain the same BASIC principles that the original 1960’s television show established: that mankind has overcome the difficulties of our inherent weaknesses and learned to work together as we head out and explore the galaxy as part of a more broad galactic community. The focus should be on that diversity and our ability to overcome (not white-wash, not “evolve beyond) our weaknesses.


 


2.       It should be about having adventures while exploring and pioneering the galaxy. I would prefer it to be a starship adventure. I think it should get back to the “pioneering the vast frontier” feel that TOS had, and not so much the “routine police patrol” feel that the later shows had. I think Enterprise rightfully strived to accomplish this, but missed the mark in execution more often than not.


 


3.       I don’t really care about what timeframe it is set in. But, I’d PREFER it to be a complete re-boot. I know many fans are blindly and single-mindedly tied into the “big picture” and enormous tapestry of history and continuity and really DEFINE their fandom by their knowledge and involvement in it…but all I really care about is good outer-space adventure stories with good characters and the “Star Trek” basics. I think this approach would not only facilitate my next suggestion (which may be the most important one), but it will also make the show more mass-marketable because newcomers don’t have to feel like they need to catch up on 500+ hours of continuity.


 


4.       Whatever it is, it needs to be DIFFERENT. It can’t be a remake of a remake like Voyager was. It needs to be as different from the other series as the new Battlestar Galactica was from THAT original series. That doesn’t mean it has to emulate BSG…but it needs to strive for that level of separation, while still maintaining the fundamental elements. The BSG reboot did this perfectly. The basic plot elements were the same as the classic show (Cylons, fleeing fleet, destroyed colonies, search for Earth, Vipers, etc), but the tone, themes, and feel were very different. Trek needs to strive for that kind of “newness.”


 


5.       It should be a unique, innovative, envelope-pushing show. People forget that the original Star Trek was a BOLD and very challenging series for its time. It dealt with issues that weren’t typically seen on television. It looked and felt different than anything else. It had a unique quality to it that challenged and excited audiences. I think the last show to come out and be that “innovative” was “24” on Fox. I think a new Trek series should be innovative.


 


6.       I think it should come out “later rather than sooner.” I don’t want to see anything rushed. CBS should gauge the health of the Trek franchise by seeing how the NEXT movie goes, and maybe wait 2-3 years after that before airing a new show.


 

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:51 am

2.       It should be about having adventures while exploring and pioneering the galaxy. I would prefer it to be a starship adventure. I think it should get back to the “pioneering the vast frontier” feel that TOS had, and not so much the “routine police patrol” feel that the later shows had. I think Enterprise rightfully strived to accomplish this, but missed the mark in execution more often than not.


 


 


 


I agree. The USS TITAN novels are excellent examples of the kind of episodes that would serve the new show well.





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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:52 am

As for envelope pushing, would it be significant if the next show had a homosexual commanding officer or senior officer?


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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 10:01 am

Quote: Lieutenant_Jedi @ Mar. 08 2011, 9:52 am

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>As for envelope pushing, would it be significant if the next show had a homosexual commanding officer or senior officer?

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I think it would depend on how well it could be portrayed. If it's not done with sensitivity and earnestness, it could backfire as "trying too hard" and "exploiting the homosexual community" etc.


I think it would be a big deal, but at the same time it CAN'T be a big deal. That's the paradox. How do you do it without destroying the very message you are trying to send (which would be that homosexuality is as accepted and normal as being black, white, asian, female, etc).


If it's done "in your face," or even percieved that way...it would be horrible all around. It would be Star Trek's version of "African Child" if you've seen "Get Him To The Greek." If it's done with class and subtlety...it would be great. I'm just not sure there are writers who could pull it off, especially with something as high-profile as Star Trek. Maybe they'd take the easy way out and make it a female character since it seems that female homosexuality is more accepted than male (nonsense, but it seems to be reality).


I think the bottom line is that if they allow that character's sexual preference to DEFINE the character...then they have blown the whole series and insulted a whole community of people. If they simply have it as part of the character's greater background, and they can manage the balance necessary (ie: it's a "big deal" to OUR less-enlightened 21st century culture, but NOT a "big deal" in the 23rd century), it would be good.


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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 10:05 am

TPAM. Great commentary. I think that the best way would to have them simply be gay, without ever focusing on it. 


Perhaps they could have a "husband" or "wife" and that character be a member of the medical staff or engineering staff. That way they could be in the show, but not in the main plot every episode. 


 


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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 10:24 am

None STar Trek is dead. Leave it to the movies

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