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Zefram Cochrane

Ghostmojo

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Report this Feb. 27 2011, 2:15 pm

Zefram Cochrane - a man portrayed in quite differing fashions by Glenn Corbett (1967) and James Cromwell (1996). Is there any link between these two characterisations? Is one a natural progression of the other? Both are somewhat jaded and JC looking somewhat older than GC was in his day (which was actually about 150 years later - not only revived by the Companion, but also reinvigorated by it/her and restored to a more youthful countenance).


Sadly, Corbett died three years before the release of First Contact at the age of 59. Given that Cromwell was 56 when he portrayed ZC - had Corbett still been of good health he might have even been able to portray himself as a younger/older man! Curiously, GC starred in a Gunsmoke episode in 1971 which was called "Phoenix". I wonder whether the name of his ship in the film was some kind of tribute/reference to Corbett?

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Report this Feb. 27 2011, 2:56 pm

I think it's just one of those things that they didn't really think all the way through on back in 1967.  The portrayel of Cochran in First Contact was really good, and believable.  It makes more sense that he wouldn't be some young clean cut goody goody genius.  Earth was in ruins after WW3, so he would of had to be using scraps, and if he was truely a one of a kind genuis, it makes sense that he would be a drunk.  If one is never challenged, then they turn to other ways to entertain themselves.  And throwing the whole "just doing this for money" thing in was so spot on.  Yup, that's 21st century america for ya.  Lol


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tribblenator999

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Report this Feb. 27 2011, 11:13 pm

actually the one glen corbett portrayed was a fully aged 87 year old zefram cochrane who was kept alive by the companion. So he is sure of himself and is basically the guy from the history texts that everybody reads about in starfleet.


the one james cromwell portrayed was a zefram cochrane in his early 30s that is totally a wreck and is barely started to realize who he really is.

packrat1955

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Report this Feb. 27 2011, 11:48 pm

James Cromwell played Zefram Cochrane in the first episode of Star Trek Enterprise how could he have done this when the series takes place almost a hundred years after he invented the warp ship. 

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Report this Feb. 28 2011, 1:29 am

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>Yeah, a book I have says he isn't even human.

>I had a laugh in one older thread when "Trek 11" was being made, where an angry Trekkie said; "they've never recast ANYONE!" I asked "What about Zephram Cochrane?" Sure enough, no reply...

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Saavik. And Alexander Rojenko on TNG. Sarek in STV:TFF. A minor scene but a recast.


Can't think of any others at present.


 


 


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Report this Feb. 28 2011, 11:37 am

Quote: packrat1955 @ Feb. 27 2011, 11:48 pm

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>James Cromwell played Zefram Cochrane in the first episode of Star Trek Enterprise how could he have done this when the series takes place almost a hundred years after he invented the warp ship. 

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The "Apearance" is old footage they showed at the launching of the NX-1 and was from the ground breaking ceremony for the facility that developed the warp 5 engine. In that Footage Cochrane was portrayed as being much older. What compresses the time line is the assertion that Archers dad worked with Cochrane. Launch-30yrs = a 100+yearold Cochrane at the time of the ground breaking ceremony.


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Ghostmojo

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Report this Feb. 28 2011, 1:30 pm

In TOS Metamorphosis, Cochrane was played by Corbett who was 37 at the time of that episode's airing. In First Contact Cochrane was played by the 56-year-old Cromwell, at a point when the character, in 2063, would've been approximately 33 years old. And there is no way we are supposed to believe JC/ZC is 33 are we?!!!


The Star Trek Encyclopedia explains this discrepancy by theorizing that Cochrane's aged appearance in 2063 was the result of radiation poisoning and that when he encountered the Companion, the Companion reversed these effects, and restored his youthful appearance.


I wonder if Corbett would have been considered, had he still been alive? It would have been an interesting aspect to see the same actor playing himself again (as an older actor) all those years later, but as a younger man (but not looking young)!!!


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