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Trekwolf164

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Report this Feb. 24 2011, 9:48 am

Following a venture with the powerful Guardian of Forever,Mr Spock is removed from history,despite being very much present on the Enterprise. A distant memory allows the Vulcan to formulate a plan to restore himself to the timeline,by pretending to be his cousin in the past.


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Report this Feb. 24 2011, 7:18 pm

That was one of my favorite episodes. It was clever of Spock to go as a relative to save himself even though he lost his pet sehlat. I wish that they would have the original voice of the Guardian of Forever. That would have been awesome. BTW, how did you like me as Kirk's first officer? 


 



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Report this Feb. 24 2011, 9:39 pm

This was an animated series episode. The entire animated series played around with established canon. However this was a great episode to watch because it established SO many things we now take for granted about Spock and his planet. It was the first to show any expansive views of Vulcan. It was the first episode to mention his mothers original last name. It established the challenges Spock faced growing up, it showed a sehlat for the first time. Fantastic show. 


One thing I found funny is that the Federation used the Guardian of Forever to study time. That just seemed like it would be a mess. If  you ever get to watch the episode on DVD turn on Micheal and Denise Okudas text commentary. They give some amazing insights on the show and this particular episode. 


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Report this Feb. 28 2011, 9:54 am

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>Just as well you gave in at the end Bro and agreed that they could try and save Spock or otherwise there would have been trouble.

>If Thelev had worked with Kirk he should have known though that Kirk would never give up on Spock.

>I saw this episode mentioned in the Star Trek Top 20 episodes which surprised me being an animated episode but it was very good.

>It made me feel that Sarek and Amanda did try to understand their son more so than they did in 'Journey to Babel' or in 'Sarek' or 'Unification'.

>I've argued this before but still do not quite understand why Spock got into trouble in this episode in the first place. Sure he was supposed to save himself but this wasn't the normal way the timeline would have run. Why would Spock and Kirk not being available because they were in the Guardian cause young Spock's death? Unless something the other guys in the Guardian did caused young Spock to try the Kaswhan earlier. This time travel stuff confuses me.

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A pre-destination paradox. Spocks "cousin" never was his cousin, it had always been Spock. Why he returned earlier may have been for a different reason, perhaps just to observe, or perhaps to repair some other fault in the time line.


I have always enjoyed this episode. Infact, before I bought the box set it was the only episode I had a clear memory of.


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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Mar. 01 2011, 5:03 pm

A grey Andorian?

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Report this Mar. 20 2011, 4:38 pm

I just watched this episode the background paintings are so great.


The crew is whole minus Checkov


Just great Trek.


 


 

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Report this Mar. 21 2011, 10:56 am

Isn't ALL Trek, GREAT?!


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Report this Mar. 23 2011, 6:02 am





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Report this Mar. 21 2011, 5:56 pm



Isn't ALL Trek, GREAT?!







If only that were true.


TOS had "Spock's Brain and TAS had "The infinite Vulcan"


Both 0f these  episodes place our beloved Mr. Spock in a very illogical light .


Not great Trek


not even good Trek


Just examples that even with the best premise or cast, can't help poor writing.


Why do I hear that awful Theme to Enterprise suddenly pounding in my mind and the almost impossible  to resist desire to describe the last attempt to put a Trek series on the air.


 


 

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Report this Mar. 23 2011, 8:13 am

Chuckle. No franchise is without its mistakes, but in general Star Trek is great. 


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FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Mar. 23 2011, 1:40 pm

Which is why it's endured for so long - very hard in the entertainment field.

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Report this Apr. 24 2011, 4:53 pm

One of the worst episodes I say.


As a wise man once wrote, : "Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever".

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Report this Apr. 25 2011, 1:05 pm

Because there is virtually no story, most of these epiosdes have the same premise as TOS I think. 


 


As a wise man once wrote, : "Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever".

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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 8:26 pm

Quote: Six of Nine @ Apr. 25 2011, 1:05 pm

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>Because there is virtually no story, most of these epiosdes have the same premise as TOS I think. 

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No story, are you kidding!?!  This episode provided so much back story to Spock.  You must not be a Spock or TOS fan to think that.

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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 8:26 pm


Do they ever learn not to time travel for observation purposes?


They say the Andorian first officer has been Kirk's first officer for 5 years? Kirk hasn't been in command of the ship for 5 years.


I like the Andorian- Commander Thalen. He sets the foundation for Andorians being honorable, family-driven warriors.


Spock says he is journeying to the family shrine to honor their gods. Do the Vulcans still worship gods?


This episode does an excellent job giving background to Spock and Sarek's relationship as well as Spock in general. They show his salat, love it!!!


This is definitely a great one for Spock fans.



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Report this Apr. 29 2011, 8:35 pm

Hmmm . . . .




Interesting.

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