Star Trek

I would argue that Berman & Braga out-stayed there welcome not only in Voyager but in Star Trek in general. They both kept Voyager from transfering to the big screen; prefering TNG, a point which the studio noticed before Nemies stating that they would like a new crew not TNG crew.

And Braga is responsible for some of the worst Voyager episodes ever and the worst in star trek memory: Threshold ring any bells.

They are both the reason why after Enterprise (which they killed), no other Star trek show has been comisoned.

If Paramount wanted VGR on the big screen it would have taken place. As for "Threshold", the episode had multiple rewrites by many other writers, but no one could make it work -- not even Michael Piller, who was the executive producer and showrunner at the time of production.  As such, Piller should bear at least some responsibilityin the eyes of fans. Braga simply had the misfortune of being the final salvage operator and at least made it producable (admittedly an arguable point). Most of the episode isn't bad, but its spaciousness caused an elusive and poorly executed ending.

Braga wrote over a hundred episodes among TNG, VGR, and ENT. That's going to lend itself to a few bad episodes, but he also wrote some great ones, which seem to be largely ignored by fans: "The Game"; "Cause and Effect"; "All Good Things" (TNG); "Deadlock"; "Future's End"; "Distant Origin"; "Living Witness"; "Timeless" (VGR), etc... How can anyone let "Threshold" overshadow these?

Braga was only responsible for executive producing season 5 & 6 of VGR, and I've often heard people think highly of season 5. And Berman also did a superb job of managing Star Trek and staying true to Roddenberry's vision. Paramount/CBS wanted to crank Star Trek out like an assembly line. Industrialism does not lend itself to sustainability.

Whilst you make some valid points i would disagree with you on some. The studio did not want nemises made as Berman stated in his interview on startrek.com, they had to talk them into it, hence why Nemises performed poorly at the box office. Berman and Braga stopped voyager from transitioning to the big screen prefering to favour the out dated TNG.

They both out stayed their welcome in star Trek and made the franchise become stagnent and stale, they were not fresh and did not want any new imput into Star Trek as one of Braga's friends/collegues noted when he quit working on voyager.  Berman also is a bit bitter about how he is seen by fans, he came across very sour faced about the new Star Trak film saying it was more style and substance. Both should of handed control to new talent towards the end of Voyager as the 7th Season is ( besides a few good episodes) is mostley awful. With an ending that is arguable one of the worst star trek sereis ending ever.

Berman and Braga might have done a few bad things for Trek, but overall they did far more GOOD than bad.

as for you saying that Voyager season 7 is mostly bad with a terrible ending. That is only a matter of opinion, that is only YOUR opinion. I felt that season 7 of Voyager was overall quite good. One of their best seasons

I suggest you first read the credits to Nemesis, because Braga was neither a producer or writer for the movie. He had nothing to do with it. Berman stated in the interview Paramount wanted a younger crew, and judging by the lacklusters in Abrams' movie, Paramount wanted a younger crew than VGR. I certainly won't blame Berman for any negative comments he offers to Abrams' movie. I think of it as one of the single worst events in human history. I'd even prefer watching a Jenniger Lopez film to that crap.    

I also enjoyed VGR's 7th season, although the Chakotay/Seven relationship was awkard. Kenneth Biller was the executive producer and showrunner, and admits to writing the series finale last minute.

Ronald D. Moore is the colleague spoken of, and there's a bit more to the story. Moore came over from DS9 where the stories focued on seasonal arcs and consequences from episode to episode. That worked for DS9, because it was stationary. But VGR was constantly on the move and encountering new phenomena. Episodic television worked for that premise, which Paramount preferred to DS9's style. DS9's style might have been popular with the fans, but remember Berman and Braga have bosses too.

Another factor to consider is Moore's and Braga's background on TNG. Moore came to TNG a year or two before Braga and had seniority. When TNG ended, Moore went to DS9 and Braga went to VGR. Moore was a co-executive producer by DS9's end. Braga became an executive producer by the same time, because both Michael Piller and Jeri Taylor left VGR. Moore came to VGR and no longer had seniority. Berman has noted how that impacted their friendship, which thankfully has been repaired.

Moore went on to producer BSG, which was his revolt against the confines of Star Trek. BSG was decent the first couple of seasons, but was aweful after season 2. I'm happy with what Berman and Braga did.

Why do so many VGR fans here really believe this show had the slightest possibility of appearing at the cinema? It really did not have any of the qualities necessary. None of the actors with the possible exception of Jeri Ryan had anything approaching silver screen charisma or presence. It was never going to happen. It wasn't because of preferences for TNG or anything else. VOYAGER just wasn't good enough for such big exposure ...

Voyager could of made the transition if given a chance, TNG crew was out dated and stale and this was proven during their last 2 films. Voyager had some excellent actors; many who had appeared in sucsessful films.

Lostshaker makes some valid points; many referneced from wikipiedia. I just think that Berman and Braga outstayed their welcome in the franchise and should of made way to new ideas and fresh talent who could of taken the show(s) to bigger and better things. They both just reproduced the same storylines over and over again. In my mind they have to take about 70-80% of the blame for star trek ending 

The new star trek film was amazing; it was innovative, fresh and pumped life back ito star trek. It fitted modern day perceptions of space and what star trek should be and was a massive hit.

a few of Jenny from the blocks films are ok lol lol