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vulcan lady

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Report this Mar. 10 2011, 9:05 am

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>Yes, I agree. 

>I think TNG tried a little bit too hard to show how everybody was getting along and how every race accepted each other in the future, which is all well and good but can get to be too "Little House on the Prairie" at times.

>I don't understand why they didn't take advantage of Patrick Stewart's passionate acting abilities more.  He is excellent when his character is angry, because he is also struggling with being diplomatic; and those episodes, in my opinion, are some of the best of TNG.  I watch TNG all the time, but sometimes I'm not in the mood, so I understand exactly what you mean.  Today a TNG marathon is on SYFY, and I'm home but am not in the mood.  But if it was a TOS marathon, I would not turn it off!  And I will put on the SYFY ST movie marathon tonight!

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>I think any new Star Trek series has "To Boldly Go" where no TREK series has gone before in terms of making a an impact upon its viewers in a very positive manner.

>The setting can be any time frame, TOS or STO era would be preffered with a new ship and crew.

>All I ask is that they don't try the TNG type show again, since it can be rather bland at times.

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Report this Mar. 10 2011, 9:13 am

Quote: vulcan lady @ Mar. 10 2011, 9:05 am

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>I think any new Star Trek series has "To Boldly Go" where no TREK series has gone before in terms of making a an impact upon its viewers in a very positive manner.

>The setting can be any time frame, TOS or STO era would be preffered with a new ship and crew.

>All I ask is that they don't try the TNG type show again, since it can be rather bland at times.

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I think TNG tried a little too hard to show how well everybody was getting along in the future and how every race accepted each other, which is all well and good but can get a little too "Little House on the Prairie" at times.


I don't understand why they didn't take advantage of Patrick Stewart's passionate acting abilities more often.  He is excellent when his character is angry, because he is also struggling with being diplomatic, and those episodes, in my opinion, are some of the best of TNG.  I also like when Wesley gets in trouble and Picard gets upset, or when Alexander gets in trouble and Worf is upset.  


I watch TNG all the time, but sometimes I'm not in the mood, so I understand exactly what you mean.  Today, for example, a TNG marathon is on SYFY, and I'm home but not in the mood. But if it wa a TOS marathon, I would not turn it off, even though I own all the episodes.  But I will put on the SYFY ST movie marathon tonight! 


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UFP2009

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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 6:59 pm

I've already said what the next series should be and it's not what you all desire; this is why I stand alone on this issue.


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Report this Mar. 14 2011, 7:52 pm

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 14 2011, 6:59 pm

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>I've already said what the next series should be and it's not what you all desire; this is why I stand alone on this issue.

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I think my whole point is that (respectfully) folks like you confuse what the next series "should be" with personal perference or what you "want it to be."


There's a big difference between the two...and it seems many of us lose sight of that.


Saying "this is what the next series should be" and then saying "but I stand alone on this issue" is ultimately contradictory. The series "should" be something that's going to appeal to the most broad audience and allow for broad freedom in creativity and character development. It "should" not be something that one or two fans would like to see. That doesn't do anyone any good.


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Report this Mar. 15 2011, 12:57 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Feb. 18 2011, 6:04 pm

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>Please, God...no.

>No "Trek Wars" series. That would be such a repetitive, derivitive bag of crap.

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Indeed, very much so. Trek is about adventure and peace, if people want anymore war than it already had, fine, ok, but not a whole series, otherwise Star Trek would turn into Star Wars and just no, I do not want any form of Me’s a Jar Jar Binks that comes with SW in my ST.


Also, I think it’s about time we made friends with the Romulans. Plus watching episodes such as Unification give us some hope that Vulcan and Romulus will be united once again, which would ultimately and eventually mean the Romulans being friends with the UFP, if not joining.


Which I for one am all for, I would absolutely love to see Romulans in Starfleet!


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Report this Mar. 15 2011, 3:56 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Mar. 14 2011, 7:52 pm

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 14 2011, 6:59 pm

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>I've already said what the next series should be and it's not what you all desire; this is why I stand alone on this issue.

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I think my whole point is that (respectfully) folks like you confuse what the next series "should be" with personal perference or what you "want it to be."

There's a big difference between the two...and it seems many of us lose sight of that.

Saying "this is what the next series should be" and then saying "but I stand alone on this issue" is ultimately contradictory. The series "should" be something that's going to appeal to the most broad audience and allow for broad freedom in creativity and character development. It "should" not be something that one or two fans would like to see. That doesn't do anyone any good.

Remember how the Twighlight Zone gave dfferent scenarios but they were all mystery, ST UFP would be similar only about the Federation.


It would not be about The Enterprise and its crew, it would be about Starfleet,its ships and its personel with all of its failures and triumphs.


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Report this Mar. 15 2011, 9:31 am

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 15 2011, 3:56 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Mar. 14 2011, 7:52 pm

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 14 2011, 6:59 pm

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>I've already said what the next series should be and it's not what you all desire; this is why I stand alone on this issue.

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I think my whole point is that (respectfully) folks like you confuse what the next series "should be" with personal perference or what you "want it to be."

There's a big difference between the two...and it seems many of us lose sight of that.

Saying "this is what the next series should be" and then saying "but I stand alone on this issue" is ultimately contradictory. The series "should" be something that's going to appeal to the most broad audience and allow for broad freedom in creativity and character development. It "should" not be something that one or two fans would like to see. That doesn't do anyone any good.

Remember how the Twighlight Zone gave dfferent scenarios but they were all mystery, ST UFP would be similar only about the Federation.

It would not be about The Enterprise and its crew, it would be about Starfleet,its ships and its personel with all of its failures and triumphs.


 


Anthology series like Twilight Zone rarely work these days, again becuase they are not in demand. The stories that are more in demand now are character driven story arcs with a continuity between familliar locations, people, and plotlines.


Besides, while a Trek anthology is a fascinating idea (truly), it misses one massive element of Star Trek that, in my opinion, is THE most critical:


 


continuing character development.


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Report this Mar. 15 2011, 7:12 pm

Quote: Vger23 @ Mar. 15 2011, 9:31 am

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 15 2011, 3:56 am

Quote: Vger23 @ Mar. 14 2011, 7:52 pm

Quote: UFP2009 @ Mar. 14 2011, 6:59 pm

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>I've already said what the next series should be and it's not what you all desire; this is why I stand alone on this issue.

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I think my whole point is that (respectfully) folks like you confuse what the next series "should be" with personal perference or what you "want it to be."

There's a big difference between the two...and it seems many of us lose sight of that.

Saying "this is what the next series should be" and then saying "but I stand alone on this issue" is ultimately contradictory. The series "should" be something that's going to appeal to the most broad audience and allow for broad freedom in creativity and character development. It "should" not be something that one or two fans would like to see. That doesn't do anyone any good.

Remember how the Twighlight Zone gave dfferent scenarios but they were all mystery, ST UFP would be similar only about the Federation.

It would not be about The Enterprise and its crew, it would be about Starfleet,its ships and its personel with all of its failures and triumphs.

 

Anthology series like Twilight Zone rarely work these days, again becuase they are not in demand. The stories that are more in demand now are character driven story arcs with a continuity between familliar locations, people, and plotlines.

Besides, while a Trek anthology is a fascinating idea (truly), it misses one massive element of Star Trek that, in my opinion, is THE most critical:

 

continuing character development.

I'm not talking mysteries here, i'm talk different situations with different characters.


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Report this Mar. 16 2011, 4:49 am

I think UFP2009 has an interesting proposal- a different cast and kind of story every week. Not only would it allow the franchise to visit multiple aspects but more well known actors would be willing to do Trek because they wouldn't have to be afraid of it dominating their careers. This would mean better acting and less chance of stories becoming stale. I think that is one of the best ideas I've heard.

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Report this Mar. 16 2011, 6:41 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Mar. 16 2011, 4:49 am

>I think UFP2009 has an interesting proposal- a different cast and kind of story every week. Not only would it allow the franchise to visit multiple aspects but more well known actors would be willing to do Trek because they wouldn't have to be afraid of it dominating their careers. This would mean better acting and less chance of stories becoming stale. I think that is one of the best ideas I've heard.


 


it's a very good idea, and it's one that I remember entertaining myself. However, there's three key elements that work against it as a practical idea that would survive network television:


 


1. Budgets: Creating realistic sets, locations, constumes, CGI models etc. takes time and tons of money. That's why all seasons of Star Trek have several bottle shows that can film on existing sets with existing costumes, actors, props, models etc. The thought of having a full season of a science-fiction outer space adventure show that doesn't have the ability to do "bottle shows" is almost unthinkable.


2. No Hook: Modern general audiences, which are NECESSARY to the survival of a series, get hooked or drawn-in based on serialized arcs and continuingly developing characters. An anthology eliminates any serious possibility for either of these.


3. No Continuity in Writing: History has proven, with the exception of TOS, that the early seasons of any new Trek show are typically inferior to the later seasons. It seems like it takes Trek writers and producers longer to find the "voice" and "tone" of a series. With an anthology idea, the writers would never get comfortable enought to get into that Trek "groove" becuase you're moving on to the next thing.


 


Again, it's a lovely idea...but from a practicality standpoint, it's pretty much a fantasy. You'll never see this happen. Not in a million years.


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Report this Mar. 31 2011, 9:11 am

Quote: BrotherofShran01 @ Feb. 17 2011, 7:09 pm

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>Those of us who are Star Trek fans have heard about it, read about it in non canon novels. It's time to live it!

>I would like to see how the Early years of the United Federations of planets stood up to one of its greatest challenges to its existance:  War from the Romulans and her allies. 

>Who are the Heroes and unsung heroes that help the Federation win the war? What technologies were developed that turned the tide of war? What made the Romulans cry uncle and establish the neutral zone and the Treaty of Algeron? Personally, I like to think that it was Me , Thy'lek Shran, and the Andorian Imperial Guard who won the day ...  what do you think.

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I'm actually working on a short novel called, UFP It's cold in space or Cold war ll. The work takes place starting in 2192 and includes ST Enterprise royalty in cameo rolls; but Starfleet is the focus not the Enterprise.


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