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14 Names for Constitution Class Starships

Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 8:26 pm

According to the Memory Alpha page about the Tholian Web: "The Defiant is not among the names of the fourteen Constitution-class starships that were suggested in The Making of Star Trek"


 


Does anybody have this book and/or know what the 14 names are?  Couldn't find the list online.


 


 


On the same subject, the Constitution class vessels known in the franchise are



USS Constellation (NCC-1017)
USS Intrepid (NCC-1631)
USS Potemkin (NCC-1657)
USS Excalibur (NCC-1664)
USS Exeter (NCC-1672)
NCC-1700
USS Enterprise (NCC-1701)
USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-A)
USS Hood (NCC-1703)
NCC-1707
USS Lexington (NCC-1709)
USS Defiant (NCC-1764)3

 


More possibles are:



USS Eagle (NCC-956)
USS Republic (NCC-1371)
USS Scovil (NCC-1598)
USS Kongo (NCC-1710)
USS Merrimac (NCC-1715)
NCC-1831
USS Emden (NCC-1856)
USS Endeavour (NCC-1895)
USS Challenger (NCC-2032)
USS Ahwahnee (NCC-2048)
USS Farragut
USS Yorktown5

 


The books have so many they aren't worth listing, but you can find them here:


http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Constitution_class


 

Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 12 2011, 12:52 pm

Vice Admiral, I my question is what were the originally suggested 14 names from the book The Making of Star Trek. memory alpha says there was a list of suggestions in which the Defiant was not listed, so what was the list? The tech manual probably has a different list. Besides, just because those names were recommended, doesn't mean they were all used. I'm curious to know what names the producers had in mind, not what they ended up using.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 12 2011, 7:35 pm

Interesting list, and those are from The Making of Star Trek also? Kongo is particularly interesting,probably the only one never used in the franchise. Thanks for the research, Servalan

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 7:47 am

The USS Kongo!

What a great name!


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 14 2011, 5:48 am

The thing that kills me the most with the constitution fleet is the constellation being just a mixing of the amt model kit decals to form 1017. They killed continuity with that one. I wish the remaster would have corrected this. I wouldn't expect there to be too many line ships. The US has a dozen carriers, I think, and countless smaller ships. And that is far more than other navies. I would expect relatively few of the heavy cruiser design with lots of smaller ships like Mirandas and Oberths and such.

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Report this Mar. 07 2011, 4:28 pm

I have a question about the constitutions in TOS and didn't know which thread I should use.


Where is main engineering?  I always assumed it is in the secondary hull and you see the power cables going to the pylons in the background.  However, I just bought blueprints that show main engineering is where the saucer impulse deck is.  So . . . which is it?


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Report this Mar. 07 2011, 6:46 pm

Kahn targets the secondary hull in Wrath of, and hits engineering. The Borg do the same in Best of Both Worlds, with the same results. So, I think i'll have to say yes to this one. Saucer separates from the secondary hull during emergencies, leaving the nacelles behind, as well as the warp core.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 4:56 am

That doesn't mean this was the case in TOS. You speak of the refit and then the D. The original connie was very different.

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:00 am

Found an article online making a thorough argument for where engineering is- in the secondary hull.  Guess the blueprints are wrong as I assumed.


http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 9:31 am

A thought on why the name "Kongo" was used.


TOS mentioned a few times the "United States of Africa" as being one of the jurisdictional districts of the government of Earth. The idea is that Africa becomes a unified continent, and is a source of ship names. The majority of Starfleet names come from Western Civilization sources. It was nice nod to the Unified Earth to include the Kongo. 


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Mar. 08 2011, 10:52 am

Interesting point, you would think they would have slipped in an alien name, too.

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Report this Mar. 10 2011, 2:23 pm

[quote]First off there are only thirteen Constitution Class Starships in TOS. According to Franz Joseph Schnaubelt's 1975 Star Fleet Technical Manual, the ships of the Constitution class are as follows. Season one of the remastered original episodes added USS Defiant; corrections to the others' registries occurred later. * NCC-1017 Constellation * NCC-1371 Republic * NCC-1631 Intrepid * NCC-1664 Excalibur * NCC-1672 Exeter * NCC-1700 Constitution * NCC-1701 Enterprise * NCC-1702 Farragut * NCC-1704 Yorktown * NCC-1707 Hood * NCC-1709 Lexington * NCC-1711 Potemkin * NCC-1764 Defiant These registry numbers do not completely correspond to the numbers in the Technical Manual (The Excalibur, for example, was NCC-1705), but were changed later for undetermined reasons. Here is a chart that explains the origins of the names: http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc108/ADMBAXTER/Government%20charts/Constitutionclassstarshipnames.png[/quote]


 


This is correct there are only 13 Constitution Class Starships! In Season 1 Episode 19 "Tommorrow Is Yesterday" after Captain Christopher is beamed aboard, Kirk & Christopher leave the transporter room and while riding the turbolift Kirk states"There Are Only 12 Like It In The Fleet"!

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Report this Mar. 10 2011, 2:29 pm

Quote: Lieutenant_Jedi @ Mar. 08 2011, 9:31 am

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>A thought on why the name "Kongo" was used.

>TOS mentioned a few times the "United States of Africa" as being one of the jurisdictional districts of the government of Earth. The idea is that Africa becomes a unified continent, and is a source of ship names. The majority of Starfleet names come from Western Civilization sources. It was nice nod to the Unified Earth to include the Kongo. 

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Lt. Jedi- I respectfully beg to differ. I belive the name "Kongo" comes from the WWII era Japanese battleship class. Since a lot of the names come from pervious ship names this makes more sense. I seem to remember a TNG episode where a Starfleet blockade is in effect and Picard also mentions the USS Akagi. The IJN Akagi was destroyed by American forces at the Battle Of Midway.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Kong%C5%8D


 

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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 8:11 am

Quote: exeter276 @ Mar. 10 2011, 2:29 pm

Quote: Lieutenant_Jedi @ Mar. 08 2011, 9:31 am

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>A thought on why the name "Kongo" was used.

>TOS mentioned a few times the "United States of Africa" as being one of the jurisdictional districts of the government of Earth. The idea is that Africa becomes a unified continent, and is a source of ship names. The majority of Starfleet names come from Western Civilization sources. It was nice nod to the Unified Earth to include the Kongo. 

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Lt. Jedi- I respectfully beg to differ. I belive the name "Kongo" comes from the WWII era Japanese battleship class. Since a lot of the names come from pervious ship names this makes more sense. I seem to remember a TNG episode where a Starfleet blockade is in effect and Picard also mentions the USS Akagi. The IJN Akagi was destroyed by American forces at the Battle Of Midway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Kong%C5%8D

 


 


Also the African nation is spelled Congo with a "C" and not "K".

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