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Do you agree with how Nemesis ended

CmdrBrodyHansen

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 10:09 am

More or less I agreed with how it ended. I wish they would've had Worf promoted (officially on screen) as first officer, and maybe shown the Titan in the movie.

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 1:35 pm

Quote: CmdrBrodyHansen @ Feb. 13 2011, 10:09 am

More or less I agreed with how it ended. I wish they would've had Worf promoted (officially on screen) as first officer, and maybe shown the Titan in the movie.


Worf was repremanded during the dominion war, for failure to obey orders. It`s highly unlikely that he will ever have his own command in the federation.

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 4:34 pm

...Well, I honestly don't know. I thought the death of Data was handled poorly, like everyone else, but on your topic, I don't know. He always wanted to be a captain, and Picard eventually got there. After that, he never really planned I bet. Picard's life has really ended. He's got no real family (i.e. the Picard line is dead), and nothing left but his chair on the Enterprise. Now, with everyone leaving, I suspect the Enterprise will be even emptier than before. I hate how these movies have resulted in the end of Jean-Luc Picard. It's terrible! Unless this is corrected in a new movie or television series (one that is canon), I am lead to believe that eventually he will resign his command, go find some corner of the galaxy, and sit there and die... And on the subject of the Titan, I felt that Riker was always more of a tactical commander. I like the Luna class the book series made, but would have preferred him command something like a Prometheus class, or a Defiant, something with teeth.

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 4:57 pm

Quote: TyrThunor @ Feb. 13 2011, 1:35 pm

Quote: CmdrBrodyHansen @ Feb. 13 2011, 10:09 am

>More or less I agreed with how it ended. I wish they would've had Worf promoted (officially on screen) as first officer, and maybe shown the Titan in the movie.
Worf was repremanded during the dominion war, for failure to obey orders. It`s highly unlikely that he will ever have his own command in the federation.
that along with the reprimand that he got for killing Duras is even more reason why his career in starfleet was not going any further and why his only choice was to be the Federation Ambasador to Kronos.


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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 4:59 pm

Quote: CmdrBrodyHansen @ Feb. 13 2011, 10:09 am

More or less I agreed with how it ended. I wish they would've had Worf promoted (officially on screen) as first officer, and maybe shown the Titan in the movie.


When did they do this officially? In the original ending Worf was not the first officer.

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Report this Feb. 13 2011, 5:07 pm

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>More or less I agreed with how it ended. I wish they would've had Worf promoted (officially on screen) as first officer, and maybe shown the Titan in the movie.
Worf was repremanded during the dominion war, for failure to obey orders. It`s highly unlikely that he will ever have his own command in the federation.
that along with the reprimand that he got for killing Duros is even more reason why his career in starfleet was not going any further and why his only choice was to be the Federation Ambasador to Kronos.
Who is Duros?
if you are just asking this because i mispelled his name (which i already corrected), then get a life, but if you really don't know who he is then this link will jog your memory. (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Duras,_son_of_Ja%27rod)


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Report this Feb. 14 2011, 6:20 am

Worf is first officer in the books which works for me. It makes more sense than someone new like in the cut scene.

I liked how it ended with a ray of hope and that life goes on. You had the symbolism of the ship badly damaged but under repair. But it lacked the riding off into the sunset quality of ST6. I feel like it didn't give me a sense of closure. Of all the tng movies and the series, I think generations had the best ending, though it would have been better if the entire crew beamed up together at the end.

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Report this Feb. 14 2011, 5:42 pm

Heck, I was just mad that Data died!!!! I didn't really like that movie because of that. Data is my fave character and it made me mad that they just kind of killed him off like that.

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Report this Feb. 16 2011, 5:07 pm

I liked how it ended.  I agree with many people on here that Picard didn't want to be an Admiral and preferred to command the Enterprise.

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Report this Feb. 17 2011, 12:47 am

I agree that Riker should have been made Captian of the Enterprise at the end, that is, if any change was made at all. Look how long he waited for that chair!


I think was OK with Data's death. At first I was ticked, then when B4 starting singing or whistling at the end, the same song Data sang at the wedding, I was like "Oh! OK! The memory transfer! Data takes over B4 and that's how he will come back!" So I don't really see it as Data being dead, because I believe he comes back.

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Report this Feb. 17 2011, 2:34 am

Data's "sacrifice" was a cheap attempt to evoke an emotional reaction from the fans.


Michael Wong's Nemesis Pictorial Plot Synopsis says everything I feel about the ending of Nemesis.


http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial-4.html

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Report this Feb. 17 2011, 2:36 am

On a tangent, when the crew was reminiscing about Data's life and Riker mentioned the first time he met Data but couldn't remember the song he was trying to whistle, me and about fifty other trekkies in the theater shouted in unison "Pop Goes the Weasel!"


It always bugged me that they made Riker forget something so unforgettable.

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Report this Feb. 18 2011, 1:10 pm

Having Data 'die' fulfilled a wish he had in a way... to have his existence be more like a human's.


What makes me laugh is the glut of Admirals... seems every captain becomes an Admiral. And everyone stays in Starfleet, instead of maybe taking an opportunity to go in a different direction. Picard could work in the family wine business. Riker could take his trombone and join a skittle band... (joke). Data could have ambitions to take over Microsoft. Deanna could have become a marriage counselor, because she could resolve those unspoken issues between couples. And Wesley... after he disappeared with the 'Traveller', he should be in the far reaches of the galaxy.  

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Report this Feb. 21 2011, 12:47 pm

I was satisfied with it, it was not everyones "Cup Of Tea" but i enjoyed it.


Data died but in doing so he attained his Humanity, too many people never even gain that much in the course of their lives.


My only anger was with the notion that Worf was passed over for Executive Officer for another outsider, despite the command experience he had on the Defiant.


 

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