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Why was Troi on the bridge?

Spot_Data's_Cat

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 12:01 am

Was it necessary to have the ship's counsellor on the bridge? I know her empathic abilities sometimes came in handy, but would non-empathic counsellors be there?

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 12:56 am

Yes, they would. In one episode (The Loss) Troi had lost her empatic abilities and Picard told her that on other ships councelors are ordinary. As for her presense on the bridge - she helped to negotiate with aliens and to fugure out whether they tell the truth. She was able to determine whether something bad is going to happen and operatively report it. They had a special chair for her on the bridge. Riker and Picard probably enjoyed her presense around. She's a senior officer, so if captain and №1 are unable to command, she will (see Disaster).


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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 3:58 am

Agree with everything in the previous post, and will add mischievously that it might as well have been a clever move by TPTB to keep the male audience glued to the screen :-P

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 4:53 am

Yep. Eye candy. Picard was a trained diplomat, he didn't need her. Read emotions? Someone skilled in body language can do that.

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 5:18 am

Quote: konarciq @ Feb. 01 2011, 3:58 am

Agree with everything in the previous post, and will add mischievously that it might as well have been a clever move by TPTB to keep the male audience glued to the screen :-P

Exactly. She was beautiful had an accent nd had a charisma about her...that'd be enough to keep a guys attenttion =D no bashing or teasing intended !


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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 7:33 am

Don't forget, she was a Lt Cmr and took the exam to enhance her career.

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 10:16 am

Quote: The Master @ Feb. 01 2011, 12:56 am

Yes, they would. In one episode (The Loss) Troi had lost her empatic abilities and Picard told her that on other ships councelors are ordinary. As for her presense on the bridge - she helped to negotiate with aliens and to fugure out whether they tell the truth. She was able to determine whether something bad is going to happen and operatively report it. They had a special chair for her on the bridge. Riker and Picard probably enjoyed her presense around. She's a senior officer, so if captain and №1 are unable to command, she will (see Disaster).




Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 11:18 am

So why didn't Janeway have a bridge councilor or empath beside her?

DjmUK

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 1:36 pm

Smaller bridge.

Maybe it was a Picard thing, I mean all Managers for example in different workplaces under the same banner have slightly different structures. But hey, for all we know, there may have been something like that in the works from Day 1...but then, boom - Delta Quadrant here we come.

HisRoyalHighnessTheKing

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Report this Feb. 01 2011, 11:40 pm

The character of Deanna Troi should never have existed at all.


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Tureaz'47

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 12:14 am

Deanna Troi gave Picard a tactical advantage when it came to opinions or decisions, concerning alien species.

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HisRoyalHighnessTheKing

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 12:21 am

Not really. Troi had a gift for stating the blindingly obvious. If empathic counsellors were really that valuable, every ship in Starfleet would have one.


Troi reflected a 1980's American culture where everyone had a stockbroker and therapist on speed dial.


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Tureaz'47

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 12:34 am

Quote: HisRoyalHighnessTheKing @ Feb. 02 2011, 12:21 am

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>Not really. Troi had a gift for stating the blindingly obvious. If empathic counsellors were really that valuable, every ship in Starfleet would have one.

>Troi reflected a 1980's American culture where everyone had a stockbroker and therapist on speed dial.

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Troi, validated what Picard was aware of. Troi is/was 'ship's counselor.


Thanks for stating the obvious.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 5:26 am

I think I would appreciated her role more if she was labeled a starfleet ambassador rather than a ship's councilor. A therapist and a diplomat have completely different skill sets.

Also, she wasn't there because it was part of Picard's command style. The galaxy class was built with a seat there for such a role. I think the E did too. The Defiant and Voyager weren't even given councilors, I don't believe. If anyone needs a councilor, it's the warship for post traumatic stress.

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 5:31 am

In the early test shots the bridge looked funny with Riker on Picards lap so the three chair set was chosen

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdZla4gKk0

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