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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 03 2011, 11:41 am

You can't label someone a total hypocrite based upon a few situations. I think the tng crew showed a willingness to change and grow and admit their short comings. They were rarely dogmatic enough to refuse to admit being wrong by the end of an episode or movie. If they were right all the time, it would be a boring show.

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Report this Feb. 04 2011, 2:04 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 03 2011, 11:41 am

>You can't label someone a total hypocrite based upon a few situations. I think the tng crew showed a willingness to change and grow and admit their short comings. They were rarely dogmatic enough to refuse to admit being wrong by the end of an episode or movie. If they were right all the time, it would be a boring show.
Admittedly, I am being a little harsh. And I agree, I want my characters flawed! I just didn't like that the TNG crew seemed to pontificate a lot about their own advancedness (or the advancedness of the human race in general) before not following through on it. Just seemed smug.


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Report this Feb. 05 2011, 3:07 am

Quote: toranaprem @ Feb. 04 2011, 2:04 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 03 2011, 11:41 am

>You can't label someone a total hypocrite based upon a few situations. I think the tng crew showed a willingness to change and grow and admit their short comings. They were rarely dogmatic enough to refuse to admit being wrong by the end of an episode or movie. If they were right all the time, it would be a boring show.
Admittedly, I am being a little harsh. And I agree, I want my characters flawed! I just didn't like that the TNG crew seemed to pontificate a lot about their own advancedness (or the advancedness of the human race in general) before not following through on it. Just seemed smug.


Don't base them on you then. Nothing is perfect, who said that it was. What is this utopia that people like to bring up. ST. is what it is. Take it or leave it. I tire of people trying to fit it in to their type of convenienvce. Learn and grow.

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 07 2011, 5:26 am

The tng crew were definitely flawed but not hypocritical. The tng and ds9 crews were both charged with being the face of the federation. In their professional lives, they always had to act perfect same as any one in sales. We got to see more off duty time with the ds9 crew so we got to see more of their flaws. Of course with sisko and worf, they were torn between 2 worlds and kira, odo, quark, and numerous smaller characters weren't starfleet so they didn't have to keep up appearances.

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 10:20 am

The TNG crew faced the challenge of the real world in which they resided. That world did not always fit their ideals, and indeed if it did the overall drama would have been rather boring.

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 10:43 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 07 2011, 5:26 am

>The tng crew were definitely flawed but not hypocritical. The tng and ds9 crews were both charged with being the face of the federation. In their professional lives, they always had to act perfect same as any one in sales. We got to see more off duty time with the ds9 crew so we got to see more of their flaws. Of course with sisko and worf, they were torn between 2 worlds and kira, odo, quark, and numerous smaller characters weren't starfleet so they didn't have to keep up appearances.
I always got the sense in TNG that Picard and Riker both were comfortable with Ferengi like Quark providing them Romulan ale and aphrodisiacs


www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdZla4gKk0

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:36 pm

This is possibly my favorite episode of the series, but I'm a nut for Sisko and Garak. And, I really love those episodes where someone makes a comment about the past of that plain simple tailor, which usually involves saying "don't turn your back on him, ever". The visitor is also fantastic, it is a great sci-fi episode, and a great way to introduce DS9 to a non-Trekkie (or non-DS9er). Of course, I'll be here all day list all of my favorite episodes, and comments on each one. It's much easier to list the handful I didn't like.

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Report this Feb. 12 2011, 9:51 am

Quote: coastcityo @ Feb. 11 2011, 1:36 pm

This is possibly my favorite episode of the series, but I'm a nut for Sisko and Garak. And, I really love those episodes where someone makes a comment about the past of that plain simple tailor, which usually involves saying "don't turn your back on him, ever". The visitor is also fantastic, it is a great sci-fi episode, and a great way to introduce DS9 to a non-Trekkie (or non-DS9er). Of course, I'll be here all day list all of my favorite episodes, and comments on each one. It's much easier to list the handful I didn't like.
You did not absolutely love every single episode
Get out of these threads Basher!

Sorry thought I was somewhere else

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Report this Feb. 12 2011, 5:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4

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Report this Feb. 22 2011, 3:22 am

I really loved In the Pale Moonlight, too. It's definitely one of the best of the series. I didn't like The Visitor as much, although it was very emotional. ^^ Just personal preference, I guess.


 


To be honest, a lot of my favorite episodes are ones with the Ferengi in the forefront.

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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 1:13 pm

I really enjoyed In The Plae Moonlight. By far one of the better DS9 episodes.

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Report this Mar. 11 2011, 4:46 pm

Trekwolf, I can say without a doubt that I did not love, nor even like Meridian. What a stinker. So, no, I don't love every DS9 episode ever, but it is my favorite Trek ever. And, I'm one of those old farts who has been watching since the 70's.

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