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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 11:00 am

The Borg queen, She appeaed in FC and in several Voyager shows. What do you think of her and which do you like better the one from the movie or from Voyager? And do you even like the overall concept?


I think it destroys something from the Borg concept that they were all of one mind, a collective. We believed them to have no leader. Maybe with the borg queen the writers think they are doing something similar like with ants and their queen. Yet, I think it took away from how I viewed the borg and liked it better when I thought that they all worked together with their thougts linked rather than a queen who probably is feeding them instructions and making decisions. I dislike the borg queen in the movie and the one who continually showed up on the last couple of seasons of voyager.


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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 11:16 am

I though it was a great concept, like bee's or ant's, only the queen was traitorous, and evil everything you like about a powerful enemy, I liked the way they had to outsmart the borg,since physicly they were able to adapt.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 1:23 pm

I really liked the concept... because to me, it is much more true to life.

Any group of people that claims to work in "one mind" always has someone in high places pulling the strings.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 5:35 pm

Disliked...but still loved FC.

I think it took away from the uniqueness and scariness of the Borg. They became just another villian.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 6:20 pm

I liked the concept, but disliked the implementation.


The idea of the Borg having a representative of the Collective, someone to personify the overmind, I thought was quite interesting - however, I felt the Queen as portrayed was just too... emotional, too human; the inhuman, impersonal, almost mechanical nature of the Borg was one of the greatest strengths of their characterisation and was much of what made them frightening, and I felt the Queen - as supposedly the personification of the Collective, their 'true' character - rather neutered this aspect.


I think they should have made her far more inhuman - a bit like the original Agent Smith in The Matrix, with pronunciation and mannersims just subtly wrong and artificial to give the feeling that they're taking their interactions from a manual rather than actually feeling them, and that what is underneath is mechanical and distinctly alien.

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Report this Jan. 22 2011, 12:29 am

she was hot in the movie, never saw her in Voyager

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Report this Jan. 23 2011, 7:01 pm

She was cool, literally. LOL!

It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

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Report this Jan. 23 2011, 8:52 pm

I didn't like it and didn't buy into to her portrayal.
All those minds thinking as one suddenly have one mind controlling them all ruined the very essence of what the Borg were, which was far more terrifying then focusing on a single Queen.
Basically it was "ALIENS" concept applied to the Borg, typical regenerative TNG tripe.

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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 4:38 am

I thought it made sense that the hive mind would have a focal point to guide the billions of minds into a purpose. And Kridge did an amazing job making such a disgusting character sensual. Destiny also laid an excellent foundation for the queen and the borg drive.

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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 5:22 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 24 2011, 4:38 am

I thought it made sense that the hive mind would have a focal point to guide the billions of minds into a purpose. And Kridge did an amazing job making such a disgusting character sensual. Destiny also laid an excellent foundation for the queen and the borg drive.

Theory based on rabid bees that perhaps, has strayed from the true hide? A storyline, perhaps.

It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 11:48 am

She was great in FC but unnecessary thereafter. They should have left her in pieces as Picard did. Alice Krige was superb in the part. Bringing her into Voyager was just another example of that show's inability to go anywhere much without borrowing from previous shows/films (even though the worthy Krige reprised the role for some episodes and Susanna Thompson did for others) ...


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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 11:53 am

The physical Borg Queen should have had no organic components or if she did it should have been a host. The Real Queen should have been in the central node of the home hive. So destroying her Proxy would accomplish nothing.

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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 1:04 pm

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Jan. 24 2011, 11:48 am

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>She was great in FC but unnecessary thereafter. They should have left her in pieces as Picard did. Alice Krige was superb in the part. Bringing her into Voyager was just another example of that show's inability to go anywhere much without borrowing from previous shows/films (even though the worthy Krige reprised the role for some episodes and Susanna Thompson did for others) ...

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Ok, but what is the point of having the series and movies conected if not to borrow from eachother once and a while. TNG did it with TOS and DS9, DS9 did it with TNG and TOS, Voyager did it with all three, and Enterprise did it (to linited extent) with First Contact. Besides it would make no sence for the Queen to remain, as you put it, in pieces, as, logically, she would have been replaced the moment that she went back in time.


Oh, BTW, i did like the concept of the queen as it did bring in the one quality that the borg were lacking (whether we knew it or not), a leader.


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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 1:08 pm

Quote: Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 24 2011, 11:53 am

The physical Borg Queen should have had no organic components or if she did it should have been a host. The Real Queen should have been in the central node of the home hive. So destroying her Proxy would accomplish nothing.


And how do you know that this wasn't the case wolf? How do you know that they didn't make that first woman that they assimilated in the movie the vessle for the queen program? Also i dissagree that the queen should be compleatly inorganic, as this goes against the very foundation of the Borg (Organic and Inorganic working together), and would make less sence in a queen.

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Report this Jan. 24 2011, 7:15 pm

Love the Borg Queen, especially in FC. I thought 'twas a smart move, eh!

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