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borg and telepaths

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 18 2011, 11:26 am

Well I hope Jarret knows how to program a replicator.

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Report this Jan. 18 2011, 4:57 pm

Jarret is irrelevant, meatball subs are irrelevant, all will be one.


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Report this Jan. 18 2011, 11:03 pm

Could a telepath read a Borg's mind?
The Betazoids, the Vulcans and the Ocampa (from the other array - VOY: "Coldfire") are the telepaths that immediately come to mind. I doubt any of them could read a Drone's mind because it would be very confusing. In a pictorial sense, it would be depicted as billions apon billions of beings, standing side by side and speaking the same thing similtaneously. It could be very overwelming as all these races are only used to reading a singular mind (or two minds at the most) at a time.
In my professional opinion (though I know next to nothing about telepathy): No, it would overwelm the telepath to an extremely great extent, possibly causing mental damage to the telepath.

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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 2:45 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 18 2011, 11:26 am

Well I hope Jarret knows how to program a replicator.


I vote Salmon.

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 5:00 am

Quote: Camorite @ Jan. 18 2011, 4:57 pm

Jarret is irrelevant, meatball subs are irrelevant, all will be one.



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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 5:10 am

Brave words, we have heard them before from many consumers, but now all eat toasted pizza subs


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 6:11 am

The borg toast a million subs, but the line must be drawn here! No further! Captain Ahab has to eat his meatballs.

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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 3:46 pm

We have studied your meatballs and they are inferior to our pizza, resistance is futile.

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Report this Jan. 19 2011, 6:26 pm

Asian takeout beats the lot. LOL!

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 4:34 am

Not a chicken teriyaki sub.

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:35 am

Quote: miklamar @ Jan. 14 2011, 8:24 pm

Quote: KelisThePoet @ Jan. 14 2011, 11:34 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 13 2011, 4:27 am

Telepathic abilities are useless to the borg. Implanted technology links their thoughts anyways. Plus they have no need to read thoughts outside the collective since they plan on conquering non borg and plug them into the matrix anyways.
But aren't the Borg programmed or directed to conquer or assimilate non-Borg in the most efficient manner possible, always looking for new means to boost efficiency? If the Borg could connect telepathically with individuals outside the Collective, they could gain useful information to aid their campaign of assimilation, and they could possibly influence the actions of individuals outside the Collective (as Spock telepathically influences people in "A Taste of Armageddon" and "By Any Other Name"), weakening those individuals' resistance. Also, the Borg assimilate information and techniques, not just organic and mechanical material. From their perspective, why wouldn't telepathy be a new "technology" for information assimilation. I guess the problem would be defining what telepathy is, then deciding if it could be assimilated. Is it a biological trait? A mental technique requiring an act of will power? Both? If there is an element of individual will inherent in telepathic techniques, could that will be recreated or simulated by the Collective or the Queen on behalf of a biologically telepathic drone?
I thought the Borg assimilated those races from whom they hoped to benefit, not just any race. It would seem that they would benefit from assimilating a telepathic race or other intellectually advanced species. If you were the Borg, wouldn't you? Additionally, having assimilated telepathic races might enable them to resist any attempts by a hostile power to use that against them.

Well they seem to just assimilate any race/species mot just the more intelligent or hostile ones.

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:44 am

What about the Kazon? And if no Kazon, there go my hopes of seeing cybernetic mugatos.

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 11:15 am

I think Seven's line about the Kazon being unworthy of assimilation was mainly a cheap joke levelled at a less popular former element of the Voyager series.

But, to think in terms of the Star Trek universe for a moment, it seems like the Borg want to assimilate everything, but they obviously have some sort of evolving, directed campaign plan that's more complex than assimilating whatever's directly in front or adjacent to their space on a first-come-first-serve basis. They've clearly prioritized assimilating humanity (humanity is always the center of a science fiction universe), even though it means repeatedly going out of their way, and they went out of their way in a different sense to go after Species 8472. My guess is they balance the efficiency of assimilating a species against what that species has to offer their future campaigns of assimilation, which explains why they've assimilated some less advanced species and deliberately ignored others.

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