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I know this question has been done to death.... introducing girlfriend to star trek...

rocketscientist

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 7:22 am

Quote: Camorite @ Jan. 21 2011, 4:17 am

With all due respect, you've just made this personal, when it has no reason to be. You've just been disrespectful to me, when I've done nothing at all to you. And FYI, there's nothing arrogant about my suggestion. It was based on statistical data.

You misunderstood me rocket, i was saying that the attitude that you were showing was arrogant, not you. In my experience it is possible to the two to the seperate.



Well, in my experience, it isn't. You're trying to draw a false distinction between the two imo. It's a way to rip on someone with an excuse in hand.

I've read your posts on the Enterprise board where you referred to fans who didn't take to Enterprise as "traitors." I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that you're so defensive about negative comments wrt this television show.



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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 7:29 am

Quote: cgbossi @ Jan. 21 2011, 4:42 am

Start with TOS or TNG. If you start with TNG pick a generally good episode, don't use Encounter at Farpoint. They'll fall asleep.



Yeah, Encounter at Farpoint is not good. The only thing that redeems it is the awesome Bones cameo. That's the only reason I'd ever want to watch it again. Oh, and seeing Q decked out in that outrageous costume was fun too.

Compared to the original "Star Trek" pilots though, you're right, "Encounter at Farpoint" is a collossal bore with a sappy, goofy, overly-sentimental ending with the two space jellyfish holding hands.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 9:43 am

Quote: rocketscientist @ Jan. 21 2011, 7:22 am

Quote: Camorite @ Jan. 21 2011, 4:17 am

With all due respect, you've just made this personal, when it has no reason to be. You've just been disrespectful to me, when I've done nothing at all to you. And FYI, there's nothing arrogant about my suggestion. It was based on statistical data.

You misunderstood me rocket, i was saying that the attitude that you were showing was arrogant, not you. In my experience it is possible to the two to the seperate.

Well, in my experience, it isn't. You're trying to draw a false distinction between the two imo. It's a way to rip on someone with an excuse in hand. I've read your posts on the Enterprise board where you referred to fans who didn't take to Enterprise as "traitors." I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that you're so defensive about negative comments wrt this television show.


Actaully i use that reference for those that never actually gave the show a chance, yet think they know what killed it. if you gave the series a chance, as you claim you did, you do not fall under that catagory.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 1:02 pm

Quote: matthaumschild @ Jan. 11 2011, 6:28 pm

Now, I am a Trekker to the core. I have my own public access show called, "Star Trek Review" in Minnesota. I have my own uniform, ect. I own every episode of every series and movie. ect. Just so you know what kind of a Trekker I am...

I've been seeing this girl for almost three months. She's been digging my shows as of late. She's afraid of watching Star Trek with me. Thinking that it's too geeky or boring. She has agreed to watch some of it with me depending on if she'll like it or not.

My question is... how shall I proceed? I know it would be a mistake to start off with Deep Space 9. I was thinking of starting out with the movies then transistion to the TOS...at least a few good episodes and a few good episodes of all the series.

what do you all think?




No. As long as she likes you, and accepts your hardcore Star Trek love, then just let it be man. You could essentially push her away, or she might NOT even like it at all. Then what do you do? Dump her? Lol

Save yourself the time and annoyance, and just don't do it. =)

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 2:08 pm

I was a fan of Star Trek in general starting out. My husband introduced me to DS9. I didn't want to watch it saying,"How boring! They stay in ONE place and everyone looks mad! And who wears a red skintight jumpsuit? Ugh! That's their fashion,really?" Well he was genuinely enthusiastic about the series and without giving spoilers mentioned characters I might like (single father raising a son alone, etc...) He would watch intriguing episodes while I was reading my book on the couch. After a while, I was slowly hooked and by the end of the series I was CRYING during certain sad parts and raging about the actions of some. Now I can honestly say it's one of my favorite series. On the other hand.. Enterprise made me so frustrated I couldn't stand it. I did watch every episode with him hoping I would change my mind. I did corrupt him against Hoshi so I guess we both affected each other with Star Trek!

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 2:59 pm

Well, yeah, there's always the subtle approach.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 3:26 pm

I guess it depends on her personality which approach to take, my husband was clever about it.

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 10:33 pm

ENT is a pretty sexy, modern version of TOS. Seriously, the two shows aren't too diff. But she'll probably enjoy ENT more, I do! I introduced my friends... some were guys some were girls to the Pilot of ENT... they enjoyed it more than they thought. Then I showed them DS9's Pilot and they weren't too fussed about it. Then I showed them TOS's Pilot and they didn't enjoy it as much. However, my cousin is a bit older and she liked DS9 more... it depends how old you are, aee.

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Report this Jan. 22 2011, 4:18 pm

Quote: iBorg13 @ Jan. 21 2011, 10:33 pm

>ENT is a pretty sexy, modern version of TOS.


No, it's definitely not. Ron Moore and Bryan Fuller are right. ENT is just TNG again with a new coat of paint. At least, that's the way it was at the beginning.

>>Seriously, the two shows aren't too diff.

They're night and day.


>> But she'll probably enjoy ENT more, I do!

I don't.


>> I introduced my friends... some were guys some were girls to the Pilot of ENT... they enjoyed it more than they thought. Then I showed them DS9's Pilot and they weren't too fussed about it. Then I showed them TOS's Pilot and they didn't enjoy it as much. However, my cousin is a bit older and she liked DS9 more... it depends how old you are, aee.

And again, it's all about ageism. If you're old and used to pre-CGI sfx, love the original SW trilogy, and spent your time playing baseball with your friends after school, you'll like TOS. If you're young, have played online video games all your life, and have HDTV and think Eps I-III are better than the original trilogy, you'll like ENT the most. Got it.



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Report this Jan. 22 2011, 4:34 pm

Quote: rocketscientist @ Jan. 22 2011, 4:18 pm

Quote: iBorg13 @ Jan. 21 2011, 10:33 pm

>ENT is a pretty sexy, modern version of TOS.
No, it's definitely not. Ron Moore and Bryan Fuller are right. ENT is just TNG again with a new coat of paint. At least, that's the way it was at the beginning.


I actually don't think the NX was painted, I think it was bare hull metal. Columbia was though, lol.


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Report this Jan. 23 2011, 7:36 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 22 2011, 4:34 pm

Quote: rocketscientist @ Jan. 22 2011, 4:18 pm

Quote: iBorg13 @ Jan. 21 2011, 10:33 pm

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>ENT is a pretty sexy, modern version of TOS.
No, it's definitely not. Ron Moore and Bryan Fuller are right. ENT is just TNG again with a new coat of paint. At least, that's the way it was at the beginning.
I actually don't think the NX was painted, I think it was bare hull metal. Columbia was though, lol.
Umm, the NX-01 was painted mathias, don't you remember archer telling trip that he scratched the paint in Broken Bow?


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