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Did DS9 need a ship?

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Created by: Matthias Russell

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 11:22 am

It seems that early on in the show, DS9 was without adequate defenses too often and needed a Starfleet vessel in the sector from the beginning.  It took the destruction of the USS Odyssey for a warship to be assigned.  Before that, runabouts couldn't venture too far into the Gamma Quadrant and after the Defiant was assigned, it was not equipped to explore the Gamma Quadrant at all, being a warship.  Should a ship have been assigned specifically for exploring Gamma or defend the station?  Did it maybe anger you for the show to have a dedicated warship not equipped to explore?

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 11:46 am

Oops, wrote "where" instead of "were". Gotta love old versions of explorer without spell check.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 11:58 am

Real exploration takes time, so a ship assigned to DS9 wasn't that important, but I think that they should have assigned ships to DS9 as soon they got there to protect DS9 from Cardassian invasion. Once they figured out that there might be a threat from the Gamma Quadrant, there should have been several ship and maybe orbital platorms setup for protection.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 12:02 pm

I'm not sure how to vote because I believe ship supplement should have been a 50/50 venture...it is Starfleet personnel on the station, yes, but it's Bajoran property...they did co-habitate on the station, why not pool their resources together for defense needs such as ships?


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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 12:08 pm

Quote: starshipgalleyrat6987 @ Jan. 11 2011, 12:02 pm

I'm not sure how to vote because I believe ship supplement should have been a 50/50 venture...it is Starfleet personnel on the station, yes, but it's Bajoran property...they did co-habitate on the station, why not pool their resources together for defense needs such as ships?

The Bajorans didn't have the resources at first to do that.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 1:53 pm

I didn't think about that...it makes sense w Bajor still recovering from the occupation in the beginning...makes my vote easy...I went w I liked seeing it halfway thru the series...it was a sensible transition and the ship was introduced at the right time for story development's sake.


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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 6:13 pm

I think that the addition of the Defiant came at the right time.  It makes sense that a dedicated warship was assigned to the station after the destruction of the Odyssey and the escalating tension with the Dominion.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 6:19 pm

the only thing Defiant was missing was the ability to fire torpedoes...if it does, I"m not aware of it...but I don't think it was outfitted 2 do it....they could've fit the launcher somewhere...lol


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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 7:32 pm

Aft torpedoe launchers starboard and port my friend.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 7:59 pm

The Bajor had warship they just not up Romulan, Klingon or Federation standers. It is call Bajoran Interceptor.http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bajoran_interceptor
However why Bajoran people unable build more powerful warship special after Starfleet send Defiant class starship over DS9 to defand it is beyond me. Why Major Major Kira Nerys could not just handed over classified information about USS Defiant to Bajoran government for build more powerful effective Bajor warship is very tough question own right. Maybe Bajoran people to much respect for Sisko. Why Starfleet do more get Bajor more already open attack is also beyond me. Only possible answer think of both side expect other to do dirty work. UFP send Defiant hope Bajoran government reverse engineer technology enough they build warship by themselves UFP blame open sharing military technology put Cardasson Fed hid face. Bajoran government expecting the UFP do more.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 9:31 pm

it's not cheap to build a starship i assume and since barjor had it own issue to deal with after being occupied for 50 years (the provisional government was pretty unstable until around season 4 or 5 i believe) I do not think their propriety was on war-ship building hence why they called for UFP assitance to help defend bajor through the space station. So its not like they were not aware of the technology they merely did not have the resources at the time and even into season 7.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 9:35 pm

and with regards to the actually question the show defiantly needed a war ship or the dominion war would have been super ballsy. could you imagine while the battle to retake ds9 or the battle of chintoka was going on sisko and the gang were watching from long-range sensors lol. and i think they brought it in at the right time because the ship was not required in the beginning because the show was more focused on bajor itself

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Report this Jan. 12 2011, 5:30 am

As Jason said, the bajorans had ships, enough to do some defense, they were shown orbiting the station regularly in later seasons and introduced in the first, I think.

As to the defiant, it had forward tubes. In fact, the defiant introduced quantum torpedoes. But the ship was small, probably had short stores, and had powerful pulse canons for primaries.

My choice is an explorer should have been assigned to the sector from the beginning, though not under sisko's command. A heavy cruiser like an Ambassador or a Galaxy would have been appropriate. That sector was relatively uncharted and dangerous, needing a resource rich ship for charting and defense. Heck, I think starfleet should have assigned a heavy cruiser for the sector and at least an oberth or miranda to explore gamma.

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Report this Jan. 12 2011, 11:10 pm

I'm pretty sure fed ships like ambassador's and galaxy's were exploring the wormhole until end of season two. And by the time a ship was needed it was because of the dominion threat so exploration of the gamma quad was probably not a high priority. I mean the defiant was a strait up battle ship, really the only kind in starfleet so what better ship to have guarding the mouth of the wormhole along with DS9 once it got its upgrades

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Report this Jan. 13 2011, 3:20 am

DS9 always needed a ship


Right from the first episode when the Cardassians somehow crossed into Bajoran space and threatened them


 


From a narrative POV, a ship was important also so episodes could venture off the station when needed.


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