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Is Star Trek Online Fun?

SDK

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 4:49 am

Seemed pretty on-topic to me. Why can't I compare the two?

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 7:39 am

You can, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison. They target different audiences and offer different gaming experiences. Comparing mortal kombat to street fighter or halo to lost planet is a fair comparison and debate, but STO and SWTOR doesn't work. It goes beyond preference and quality.

SDK

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:02 am

Two different games yes. Regardless though because the general public isnt going to judge gamplay. It's simply going to be boiled down to Star Trek vs Star Wars.


As for if it's fun or not? you can only determine for yourself. My apparent anger is simply because this is pretty much it for Star Trek MMO's. Of all people CBS chose to give it to Cryptic Studios "The Uwe Boll of MMOs"


Anyhow here's MMORPG.com's second review. The comments are a pretty good indicator of what people think of both the game and the developer.


http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/loadNews/18099/ReReview

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:11 am

I'll give you that, that Cryptic is an MMO upstart and giving them the game is a risk. For STO, they have shown a lot of effort, enthusiasm, and more respect to fans than this site but have left many promises and needed changes ignored in the past year. Guess trek fans are used to it by now, lol.

zergis

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:19 am

Quote:

Seemed pretty on-topic to me. Why can't I compare the two?


I think they should probably be comparable in gameplay, as it seems SWTOR will be somewhat similar to STO with how space combat will work and such (latest I heard was that it would feature a bridge crew with a similar function to the bridge crew in STO). Keep in mind though that BioWare, while an excellent developer of single player RPG's, have no experience in the MMORPG genre, except for a few on the dev team that worked on Star Wars Galaxies, another MMO that has quite a few haters. This isn't the same BioWare studios that worked on Mass Effect (which I think we all would like our Star Trek or Star Wars games to play like) or Dragon Age. I'm honestly not that sure if BioWare could take their expertise on creating immersive RPG's with intriguing story lines and dialogue and apply that to an MMO, which while sharing some similarities to the classic RPG genre, does a lot of stuff in very different ways.
There are also the anecdotes of the likes of EA Louse that SWTOR is breaking it's budget and falling behind it's development schedule, while all we get to see are fantastic looking CGI movies not showing any gameplay or anything that even remotely resembles MMO gameplay. I certainly hope it will end up better than STO, but no matter how fantastic it sounds by the description from their PR staff, I think it's way too early to say if it could actually deliver.

SDK

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 10:44 am

I hope it makes money. But anything can happen really.

Farmville: 33+ Million active players (sept 2009). $150 million dollar revenue (oct 2009)and it might also be worth mentioning that the dev team was only 3 people.

Abrakadabra

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 1:35 pm

I played the open beta and didn't like it enough to buy the game. The character creator was really fun, especially with the design-your-own-alien feature, and I liked being able to customize my ship, although the customization options were a little disappointing. The space combat was fun, but the ground combat felt the same as other MMOs I have tried and not enjoyed. The graphics and sound design were solid.

The parts that made me not like it were these:

-It didn't capture the feeling of Star Trek for me, not even a little bit. Star Trek should be about exploring strange new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations, and boldly going where no-one has gone before (except for other players, since it's a multiplayer game!) Star Trek Online seemed to be built on the basis of "In the grim far future of mankind, there is only war," which is the tagline for Warhammer 40000, the most un-StarTreky sci-fi franchise I can think of.

-It was lonely. Groups were temporary and ad-hoc and didn't talk to each other. It was hard to group up and do things together with your friends - you'd end up getting dumped into different instances. It didn't feel multiplayer, let alone massively multiplayer.

-The presence of a cash shop in a pay to play game also bothers me.

If STO fixed any two of those three issues, I'd call it a good game. As it is, I can't recommend it, even to somebody who really loves Star Trek. After the initial glow wore off, there wasn't enough Star Trek left to keep me going.

SDK

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 1:42 pm

Other than my general annoyances. I agree. By the time I reached maximum level I was asking myself "Is the Federation at war with everyone?" After recalling destroying fleets of Romulans, Cardassian, Dominion, Borg, Undine(8472), Hirogen, Random aliens from exploration, and the Breen I pretty much concluded "Well they are now!" I'm a terrible captain.

zergis

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Report this Jan. 20 2011, 2:21 pm

Yeah, there are no traces at all of Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek in there, which is really sad, since his utopian vision of the future was what really made Star Trek different from most other sci-fi of the era and since - but hell, I did enjoy the more combat heavy stuff in DS9, and as Elite Force is my favorite Star Trek game so far I feel I can't really make that a valid complaint against STO. I would have loved there to be exploration, diplomacy and scientific investigations that amounted to more than just "collect/scan/destroy 5 X". Something that used dialogue trees in the vein of Black Isle/Bioware/Obsidian RPG's and maybe World of Warcraft style phasing to make it feel like you actually contribute to stuff changing in the world. A lot of that is hard or close to impossible to achieve in an MMO, but I'd have loved it if they had tried it a bit more. As it is though, I think it's a fine, though pretty formulaic/generic MMORPG. It doesn't do anything new, but does what it does pretty well. If you - like me, prefer sci-fi themes over fantasy, there are not that many options right now. Might be worth waiting for SWTOR, but right now it's STO, Eve Online and maybe Anarchy Online to choose from. Eve is supposedly great, but I just can't get into it, I hated every moment I spent with Anarchy Online, but STO I have stuck with for a few months now (as I found a lot of game cards ridiculously cheap so I don't have to pay $15 a month) and enjoy casually playing it. I've probably spent less time playing it in a week than many play other MMO's in a day though, so I'm certainly not a hardcore MMO player, and I suppose the game might not offer what such players would expect of an MMO.


 


Oh, and I feel rather strange about the fact that you basically fight thousands of ships, I'd really prefer it if they would have had more (challenging) 1 on 1 or 1 on 2 ship combat. There are hundreds of people on these ships, my main character isn't even halfway to the level cap and has already killed hundreds of thousands or even millions of other sentient beings. That just feels totally wrong for the Star Trek universe.


Now, the AI is of course terrible, which is probably one of the reasons they've done it this way, but it would just have been awesome to have a wrath of khan or nemesis style one on one space battle, trying to hide in nebulaes or gas clouds when repairing and trying to make every photon torpedo count.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 21 2011, 11:47 am

There has been many cries for more to do than battle but it is difficult to make exploring and diplomacy fun in an mmo. They are trying and getting there to me. I also find the dual nature of the game to be a cool feature. As to being too war like, my only problem is the return of the borg. I don't find it hard to believe the quadrant in diplomatic shambles. We've had world wars here.

KAHLESS THE UNFORGETTABLE

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Report this Jan. 23 2011, 9:45 pm

LOVE this game! Couldnt wait for this game to come out. i have had a member ship since before the game came out, and bought the lifetime member ship for it. Gives you humans a chance to feel what its like to be a KLINGON, the greatest species in the galaxy!


QAPLA'


GLORY TO THE KLINGON EMPIRE!

staran

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Report this Feb. 15 2011, 4:11 am

I have been playing since beta. It is fun.
It wasn't fun for the first few months, mind you.
Now, I LOVE it.

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Report this Mar. 09 2011, 2:01 pm

I just finished the 3rd Featured series (staring the Romulans and Remans) and it was fantastic. The mission titled The Coliseum has a great nod to Amok Time for you TOS fans.


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thoth11

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Report this Mar. 21 2011, 6:31 am

Yes, a lot of fun.


 


It has gotten a lot better than at launch with all the new content that has been showing up.


 


The weekly episodes have been incredible to say the least. With my Fleet, we have been having a great time!


 


If curious about the game, check out STOked at Jupiter Broadcasting. They have a great podcast that can help give you a better idea about the game.

Druu

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Report this Apr. 06 2011, 2:28 am

Quote: thoth11 @ Mar. 21 2011, 6:31 am

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>Yes, a lot of fun.

>It has gotten a lot better than at launch with all the new content that has been showing up.

>The weekly episodes have been incredible to say the least. With my Fleet, we have been having a great time!

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I too am enjoying it and am echoing what thoth11 said.


I really do recommend joining a fleet and playing with other Star Trek/STO fans. It has made the game so much more fun and enjoyable.


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