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which captain or engineer could soran beat up

tribblenator999

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 7:10 pm

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If Soran can beat the combined efforts of Kirk and Picard then obviously he can defeat anybody. GEN was so lame


but in the theatrical cut kirk fell off a bridge and picard didn't do anything.

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 7:10 pm

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I think Soran would beat Archer, Picard, Janeway and Trip, but would lose to the others. Remember, Torres was half-Klingon!



how could soran beat archer but lose to someone like obrien. lol

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 7:11 pm

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Archer = Yes, archer would not see it coming from an old man

And what is your basis for this rusty, other then the fact that you don't like archer? He had more fist fights then Sisko did (if you count onscreen) includeing Augments, Xindi Reptiles, Klingons, Sulabon, Andorians, Vulcans, and borg.

In other words, with a few exceptions, Archer has faught hand to hand just about every race that Kirk took on hand to hand.



i actually agree with you camorite. Archer would be like the only captain besides kirk to beat up soran in a hand to hand.

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 8:20 pm

ok tribblenator, after some thought i see it happening in this order, Kirk, Archer, Sisko, Picard, and Janeway.

However i think that it is unfair to say that Geordi could not have taken Soran, as the bad doctor blindsided him (admitedly not hard to do with a blind person), then beamed onboard a klingon ship where he kept LaForge sedated, when he was not torchering him for information, before sending him back to the Enterprise. Now with that in mind, here is the order for the engineers, Torres, O'Brien, Trip, Laforge, Scotty (this is old scotty, as there was not a choice between old and young kirk).

Does that satisfy you.

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 8:23 pm

Quote: tribblenator999 @ Dec. 29 2010, 7:11 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 29 2010, 6:11 am

Archer = Yes, archer would not see it coming from an old man

And what is your basis for this rusty, other then the fact that you don't like archer? He had more fist fights then Sisko did (if you count onscreen) includeing Augments, Xindi Reptiles, Klingons, Sulabon, Andorians, Vulcans, and borg.

In other words, with a few exceptions, Archer has faught hand to hand just about every race that Kirk took on hand to hand.

i actually agree with you camorite. Archer would be like the only captain besides kirk to beat up soran in a hand to hand.


Not nesessarily, lets not forget that Picard was pretty good at fighting when he was younger, and Sisko more then proved that he would be able to take on two of the top warrior races in the known galaxy (the klingons and the Jem'Hadar). Though Picard has obviously gotten slower as he aged, Sisko is still in his prime, and would be able to give Soran a run for his money in a fight.

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 9:43 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 29 2010, 8:20 pm

ok tribblenator, after some thought i see it happening in this order, Kirk, Archer, Sisko, Picard, and Janeway. However i think that it is unfair to say that Geordi could not have taken Soran, as the bad doctor blindsided him (admitedly not hard to do with a blind person), then beamed onboard a klingon ship where he kept LaForge sedated, when he was not torchering him for information, before sending him back to the Enterprise. Now with that in mind, here is the order for the engineers, Torres, O'Brien, Trip, Laforge, Scotty (this is old scotty, as there was not a choice between old and young kirk). Does that satisfy you.


there's no right or wrong answer but yeah you answered it. I laugh that torres is ranked ahead of trip.

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 9:45 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 29 2010, 8:23 pm

Quote: tribblenator999 @ Dec. 29 2010, 7:11 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 29 2010, 6:11 am

Archer = Yes, archer would not see it coming from an old man

And what is your basis for this rusty, other then the fact that you don't like archer? He had more fist fights then Sisko did (if you count onscreen) includeing Augments, Xindi Reptiles, Klingons, Sulabon, Andorians, Vulcans, and borg.

In other words, with a few exceptions, Archer has faught hand to hand just about every race that Kirk took on hand to hand.

i actually agree with you camorite. Archer would be like the only captain besides kirk to beat up soran in a hand to hand.
Not nesessarily, lets not forget that Picard was pretty good at fighting when he was younger, and Sisko more then proved that he would be able to take on two of the top warrior races in the known galaxy (the klingons and the Jem'Hadar). Though Picard has obviously gotten slower as he aged, Sisko is still in his prime, and would be able to give Soran a run for his money in a fight.


picard's only good showing was him taking on 2 nausicans when he was like 22 then he got stabbed in the heart. The one thing i have to say about sisko is he's got some funky punches. lol

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Report this Dec. 30 2010, 4:09 am

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camorite

i was saying that soran would take archer by surprise because archer always trusts people he shouldn't and mistrusts those he should. true i don't like archer, but i think his foible is that of Earth's, always the last one to know.



perhaps, but in the end Archer usually find a way to defeat the person/alien that he is fighting.

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Report this Dec. 30 2010, 4:47 pm

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Is tribblenator the same person who asks the silly questions on the Star Trek Facebook page? Just designed to get responses, but not start real discussions.


no. there's a star trek facebook?

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