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Christmas in Trek

Camorite

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 9:04 pm

What ever happened to Christmas in Star Trek? Now i do remember it being mentioned at least once in TOS, but i don't remember it ever being mentioned on Enteprise, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. Why do you all think this is


In my opinion it has to do, like with religions, with the diversity of the many races that exist in the trek universe, all of which has their own holidays and beliefs.

tribblenator999

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 9:05 pm

they probably don't celebrate it on starships.

"take us out"...

Camorite

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 9:07 pm

or at least starships that have other races on them, as they did celebrate it on Kirks ship.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 9:18 pm


Camorite

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 9:58 pm

Darn, i forgot that they did have a Christmas scene in Generations.

"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12

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Report this Dec. 21 2010, 8:42 pm

That's like stating that the day shift is between 8am and 5pm, regardless of the fact that space for the most part besides the Satelittes, remain the same, as in "Night." LOL!

It's strange, being a catalyst for things that move outside.

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 4:57 am

Look, we all know christmas has nothing to do with christ and wasn't even mainstream celebrated and even shunned until Dickens. Though it is popular now and has some good modern values, many are currently starting to ignore it. The holiday will no doubt lose steam as society becomes more secularized and be largely forgotten by the trek era, especially after 400 years of new holidays that would have more meaning and relevance to federation society.

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 6:14 am

Q turned the Enterprise-D into a bauble on a Christmas tree once, I think.

I imagine Christmas has lost its religious connotations by the 24th Century, but some humans still celebrate it as a secular festival.

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 6:54 am

They can still give gifts. There have been a few birthday presents given (the first one that comes to mind is the watch Chakotay tried to give Janeway in "Year of Hell"), but I expect people would want - and receive - less presents. It's the thought that counts.

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 10:40 am

Quote: Tureaz'47 @ Dec. 21 2010, 8:42 pm

That's like stating that the day shift is between 8am and 5pm, regardless of the fact that space for the most part besides the Satelittes, remain the same, as in "Night." LOL!

Reminds me of the Babylon 5 ("Signs and Portents")convesation between CDR Sinclair & LCDR Ivanova:

after having been so rudely awakened by the computer, Ivanova reports in to C&C.

Sinclair: "Sleep well?"
Ivanova: "Sleeping is not the problem. Waking up...that is a problem. I've always had hard time getting up when it's dark outside."
Sinclair: "But in space it's always dark."
Ivanova: "I know, I know."

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 10:43 am

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i am not sure if the gift giving aspect of christmas would survive in the federation because people don't "want" things anymore and every gift would be replicated,l so it would have little meaning.

but maybe it would become a "human" centered holiday that focuses on rebirth and renewal, like it was BEFORE that jesus fellow hijacked it.


What about the episode where Data & Worf were trying to figure out what gifts to give to the O'Briens for their wedding?

Invader_Wishfire

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 2:07 pm

Since by using the stardate system we rarely know exactly what the date is, it was easy for the writers to ignore basically every holiday.

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 2:09 pm

Quote: Dendodge @ Dec. 22 2010, 6:14 am

Q turned the Enterprise-D into a bauble on a Christmas tree once, I think.


IIRC, that was Voyager, and it was done by Quinn, then discovered by Q.

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Lieutenant_Jedi

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 2:23 pm

Generally Star Trek only acknowledges the religious elements of alien or "minority" culture. The majority culture is secular, humanist, and scientific with little patience for "faith" or things not backed up by observable evidence.

"Can you detect midi - chlorians with a tricorder?"

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Report this Dec. 22 2010, 11:18 pm

I'm sure theres some VOY episode where Chakotay says,


"Yadda-yadda-yadda we'll be lit up like a Christmas Tree!"

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