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Star trek Online: is it worth it?

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zergis

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Report this Dec. 29 2010, 3:40 pm

Oh, and by the way, if all MMO's would "cost more per month than the cost of buying it" I could get behind their pricing structure.
As it is right now, most MMO's retail at something like 50-60€, and then add the 15€ per month subscription fee on top of that. My preferred pricing structure would be a free-or-less-than-10€ client, and then 10-15€ subscription fee, or the Guild Wars way of having the client at full price retail prices, but no subscription fees at all.
The Eve Online method of letting you pay the subscription fee using in-game currency isn't bad either.

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Report this Jan. 07 2011, 1:44 am

Yeah, i'll admit, i bought into the game cause of the Star Trek franchise. And i don't regret it. I consider myself a casual MMO player, so i really didn't rush myself to level cap. It took me a month to level cap my first toon, but i really did enjoy the experience of the grind. Personally, I think $15/month is a bit steep, i would settle with $10/month. But the developers have really polished this gem. They keep at, i'll keep supporting it.

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Report this Jan. 10 2011, 7:48 pm

It is much more fun when you have a fleet so you have fans to play, converse, and trade with. I'm busy gathering materials for building special equipment and supplying to friends. People can get 3 day trials and such so i suggest trying the game for a weekend for free. if you like it, come join us at shadow dragon fleet.

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Report this Jan. 11 2011, 3:33 pm

that's so gay you have to pay for it!!!!

Live long and posper.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 12 2011, 4:19 am

It's like taxes, you may not like paying out, but your money keeps things running. Besides, the monthly cost is 2-3 super value meals or 2 boxes of hot pockets. A small sacrifice for a trek gamer!

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 13 2011, 4:23 am

You can't have MMOs on consoles. PS3 and xbox couldn't handle the system demands and game controllers don't have enough buttons.

zergis

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Report this Jan. 13 2011, 1:52 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 13 2011, 4:23 am

You can't have MMOs on consoles. PS3 and xbox couldn't handle the system demands and game controllers don't have enough buttons.


The system requirements wouldn't be much of an issue, it can be optimized around that - STO can already play fine on significantly less powerful machines if you lower the graphics settings a lot. the real problem is that MMO's need to be continually updated, both with content updates and patches, sometimes they need to be patched several times in a week, the PSN and Xbox Live infrastructure is not built for that. First, console games and all their patches need to pass Sony/Microsoft certification before they are allowed to be distributed on their networks. Certification takes time and cost money, and Microsoft (probably also including Sony, but I'm not sure about them) only allow a very limited amount of free patches for a game, and then both the publishers and customers need to pay extra.
Also take into consideration that Xbox owners need to pay a fee to even be allowed access to the Xbox Live services, and PSN is going in that direction with PlayStation Plus memberships. People who already pay for that are probably not likely to approve of having to pay additional charges on top of that to play a specific game.

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Report this Jan. 16 2011, 10:18 am

Greetings (first post on these boards).

No this game is not worth the subscription fee. They're charging the same price as you would for a World of Warcraft subscription - which im sorry to say, is a much better deal. Plus with a wow subscription you're actually getting everything in the game minus a sparkly horse and charity items. Fancy mounts, weapons, content, armor, hairstyles, even emotions are all included.


I know it might seem low of me to point out the big bad World of Warcraft vs Star Trek Online but that's the reality of it. If they want to bill as much as World of Warcraft then I'll judge them as such (and same goes for any game really).  It's like having a 5 star beach resort hotel sitting next to a failing roadside lodge - both are the same price and the hotel gives you complementary breakfast lunch and dinner - all you can eat buffets to boot.


It is because of this I have lost most of my respect for the developer (cryptic). Maybe there's some marketing guru behind the scenes doing all this. I only see the Name cryptic as a customer so I'm placing my ill regard on them.


If I were to place a monthly price on Star Trek Online I would say 5 dollars or nothing. With everything cool on their store it really has the personality of a Free-to-Play MMO.


I think Star Trek Online did do some amazing things. It does give the Star Trek fandom an mmo to call home. It has good space combat. It also has interresting story - whoever wrote the story leading up to the events (path to 2409) and general in-game lore did a quality job. That peson needs a promotion. With all my gripes, I use my ill-advised lifetime subscription to log on once a month to do the weekly episodes thing they do all in one day to really experience it (the series/season/whatever) together. With the addition of those series, that's worth 5 bucks a month right there. Though I havent seen any recently.


Yes, they are making it better as stated on pretty much any review site. Just not to any caliber of a game that warrents 15 bucks a month. There are MUCH better things out there to spend 15 dollars a month on.

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Report this Jan. 16 2011, 12:59 pm

$15 a month isn't that bad for an adult with a job. And y'know WOW isn't star trek. I'm not into ghosts and ghouls. Season 3 promises some great stories, more than 2 rovided. Even WOW wasn't that great when it started, but after this many years with so many subscribers, of course it is the best MMO. The more players STO gets, the faster it will improve.

Also, game play is more challenging and requires more strategy in STO than WOW. And once STO has met WOW in calibre, those of us who have been playing will be in a better position to take advantage of it.

SDK

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Report this Jan. 16 2011, 11:33 pm

You're very right when you say that $15 a month isn't bad to someone with a job. My point is that Star Trek online is hardly worth $15 a month comparing to the competition. And speaking about WoW, its start, and what it is now: WoW is the game that pretty much set the standard. In business you either have to strive set the standard or meet the current standard to succeed. Unfortunately for Star Trek Online the standard was WoW in its second expansion.

So if you like Ghosts and Ghouls or Romulans and Klingons the point I'm making is that in terms of the actual product - Star Trek Online was just generally not what it should have been. And with its massive fan base, it's definitely not what it could have been.


Returning to topic of course - Star Trek Online is NOT worth $15 a month.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jan. 17 2011, 5:00 am

I can definitely understand your perspectitive. I was playing with a guy last night who was on the STO forums a year before launch and had numerous complaints. I also have a friend taking a several month hiatus because he is topped out in rank and there is no new content. There are no fleet starbases as was promised, sector space is too small, blah, blah, blah. But I love the story and fantasy. Plus, playing with other trek fans in fleet missions is extremely fun. However, if the product doesn't become more solid in the next year, I may pull my subscription. But having said that. STO has gone a lot further to cater to fans than this, the "official" star trek site.

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Report this Jan. 30 2011, 11:46 am

It's worth the money. You buy the game initially and you get 30 days free. After that you subscribe for 15 dollars a month (cheaper if you select different plans). Now, the game changes every few months with the addition of new ships, costumes, content, expansions etc etc. The game changes over time so you are always getting a new game. It's a lot better than the game you go out and buy and play over and over and over with the same missions, results and gameplay.

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 8:22 am

I just got STO and I think it is worth the money because of the experience you get...I know what its like to captain a ship now! (And I'm Vulcan)


Pain is a thing of the mind. The mind can be controlled. -Spock

Matthias Russell

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 11:04 am

That's what I'm saying. There is no better way to live your trek fantasy.

SDK

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Report this Feb. 02 2011, 7:32 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Feb. 02 2011, 11:04 am

>That's what I'm saying. There is no better way to live your trek fantasy.
you just made me terribly depressed.


on a bright note, they did a really good job with ESD.

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