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saving a warp nacelle

Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 23 2010, 5:23 am

I believe it is a power thing, obviously the more nacelles, the higher the plasma output required which means more fuel and stronger crystals. Of course earlier ships, like the kelvin, would theoretically be unable to make course adjustments at warp unless a balancer (which seems pointless with one nacelle) adjusted the field. Ships like the constellations and cheyennes would be highly maneuverable since they could make all sorts of crazy shaped warp fields, but then you would almost expect 2 cores.

As for them never ejecting a nacelle, shackleford, why would they ever break an expensive model? You know how difficult it is to reattach fiber optic cable?

scottjimenez

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Report this Dec. 23 2010, 5:47 am

Re-attach fiber optic cable? Difficulty level 12 i imagine....if it can be done at all.

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miklamar

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Report this Dec. 23 2010, 8:44 pm

If you could have four nacelles, you could put them in either a cross-pattern or a diamond. I think the diamond pattern would be cool looking.

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Report this Dec. 24 2010, 9:12 am

more nacelles relly don't mean more speed...The Enterprise E is faster than the Stargazer.

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 24 2010, 10:25 am

Quote: scottjimenez @ Dec. 24 2010, 9:12 am

more nacelles relly don't mean more speed...The Enterprise E is faster than the Stargazer.

They would improve maneuverability. Also, the E had better and bigger engines than the Stargazer. Presumably, the more powerful the warp shell you can generate, the faster you can go, too/

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Report this Dec. 25 2010, 1:42 am

But, what do you all think about adjusting the flow of fuel into the matter/antimatter reaction core? I think they should make a switch that would automatically adjust it, in case of an emergency--maybe one that could be thrown remotely, as from the Main Bridge or an Engineer's PADD.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 25 2010, 5:12 am

I'm sure it is computer regulated. A processs like that which is so critical and could easily blow up the ship is no doubt auromated. We saw the flow change on the D and E several times.

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Report this Dec. 25 2010, 7:43 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Dec. 25 2010, 5:12 am

>I'm sure it is computer regulated. A processs like that which is so critical and could easily blow up the ship is no doubt auromated. We saw the flow change on the D and E several times.
But, in case of an emergency, would the computer automatically adjust the flow of matter and antimatter into the reaction chamber?  It would probably be much faster that way, unless Data or another talented android were onboard.


Going back to the arrangement of the nacelles, I stumbled across a picture of the Stargazer, Picard's old ship.  Although it has four nacelles, they are paired, with two above the saucer and two below, in kind of a vertical position.  I thought that was interesting.


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Report this Dec. 26 2010, 6:07 am

In the Constellation as opposed to the Cheyenne, you only need one plasma conduit off the reactor, then you can split the streams just before plasma injection. Probably easier that way.

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Report this Dec. 28 2010, 7:58 pm

Good point, Matthias. I really like your sugestion about the split streams.

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Report this Jan. 01 2011, 10:12 pm

Yesterday, I finished reading the Star Trek novel I was reading, so I started thumbing through the STNG Technical Manual. It talks about an Emergency Separation System (ESS), to use when a nacelle has been damaged. 10 exploseive structural latches can be fired, which would push the nacelle away at about 30 meters per second (p. 63).


So, I guess the Galaxy-class ships do have a system for ejecting damaged warp nacelles!


However, it also says that a study was conducted in 2269, and it determined that using 2 nacelles was the optimum number for power generation and vehicle control.  Their positioning off the Y-axis' center of mass "effectively preventing pinwheeling" (p. 66).  So, the horizontal placement seems to be the best.


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Report this Jan. 02 2011, 5:05 am

Makes sense. A damaged nacelle could send explosive pasma back throught the conduit further damaging the ship. Good job on doing your homework now we both have more knowledge...thanks. I have three kids so having alot of time to read books is out. i have to watch it or talk about it...and i'm the ONLY Trekkie in the house...lol.

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Report this Jan. 04 2011, 8:35 pm

Quote: scottjimenez @ Jan. 02 2011, 5:05 am

>Makes sense. A damaged nacelle could send explosive pasma back throught the conduit further damaging the ship. Good job on doing your homework now we both have more knowledge...thanks. I have three kids so having alot of time to read books is out. i have to watch it or talk about it...and i'm the ONLY Trekkie in the house...lol.
Thank you, scottjimenez! You have a life, though, whereas I can read because I have no other responsibilities. But, it is sometimes lonely, being the only Trekkie or Trekker around.


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