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Is it canon?

Matthias Russell

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Report this May. 19 2011, 4:12 am

I sure hope that new Enterprise F won't be canon.  I would love to see Alex Jaeger, Doug Drexler, and John Eaves weigh in on it.

guillermo.mejía

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Report this May. 23 2011, 4:52 pm

There's a bunch of good ideas here that would make a great setting for a 6th series, such as a full on war with the Klingons and so on, but yeah, just like every other non movie or non show product, it's not canon.


Soft canon sounds good, since it is a CBS approved product.


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SLagonia

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Report this May. 23 2011, 7:57 pm

No, not at all.  Trek's expanded universe is never canon, except in a few rare circumstances...  And even then it's in question.  This is just like any other video game/book/comic/etc; It's not official canon, though if you want to think of it as personal canon, go ahead.


As for the series potential; This would make a terrible series, though it does seem like it would make a good enviroment for a MMORPG.  They're creating this universe for a completely different medium.  Trek tends to make a lousy sandbox for video games, so they need to make this pretty anti-Trek to make it work.


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Miquai

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Report this May. 24 2011, 6:53 pm

I'd say it's even less canon than the books. It's a game, so it's got game mechanics. But don't go telling me that in the 25th century Starfleet officers will have to choose between 3 "character classes" and only be able to use Mark I-II equipment while they are Lieutenants.

guillermo.mejía

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Report this May. 24 2011, 7:12 pm

...or that Starfleet will allow ensigns to command starship, no matter how desperate they are.


It would be like a cadet being made captain for one heroic mission!!


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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 12:25 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Jan. 08 2011, 12:51 pm

>My biggest problem is how the Borg come back after Destiny. i wish this would be resolved, as well as janeway's presence in the book. Martin knew Janeway was dead in the relaunch books, so why put her in the STO book?


The STO tie-in novel, "The Needs of the Many," explained this... the novels and STO are separate timelines (much like the last movie established a new timeline), albeit with several similarities. Poor Wolf Dulmer... (aka Marion Dulmur in the novels' reality)


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guillermo.mejía

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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 7:48 pm

Basically STO and the novels have similar but different timelines. Memory Bet does a decent job trying to follow characters in both timelines such as Mirai Paris for example and the Romulan Empire.


But going back to the original topic question, it is clearly not canon. They even have a new Enterprise, the F, that was created as a result of a fan contest, but it is NOT canon in my eyes, and I don't think there should be any doubt.


http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2415


On a side not, I liked some of the runner ups better than the actual winner.


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Report this Aug. 05 2011, 6:54 pm

Quote: Lieutenant_Jedi @ Dec. 13 2010, 6:01 am

>Yes bringing back the borg to me seems to be the fatal mistake. Star Trek fans are tired of the Borg being the everyday bogeyman.


Then you would not like this game. Its borg all the time in this game. I think the Borg killed creative story telling in star trek. It seemed like they could not come up with new ideas.

Miquai

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Report this Aug. 11 2011, 9:02 am

Quote: wmtyrance @ Aug. 05 2011, 6:54 pm

Quote: Lieutenant_Jedi @ Dec. 13 2010, 6:01 am

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>Yes bringing back the borg to me seems to be the fatal mistake. Star Trek fans are tired of the Borg being the everyday bogeyman.

Then you would not like this game. Its borg all the time in this game. I think the Borg killed creative story telling in star trek. It seemed like they could not come up with new ideas.


I respectfully disagree. I think the Borg were a great addition to the Star Trek universe and that some of their story lines were the best. It was very creative to come up with the idea of the Borg, a collective consciousness that believes its perfecting others by stripping away their individuality.

guillermo.mejía

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Report this Aug. 12 2011, 5:47 pm

Look at it this way, as long as nothing officially contradicts it you have either the game or the books. Pick your canon and go forward.


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Report this Sep. 09 2011, 2:12 pm

Quote: guillermo.mejía @ May. 24 2011, 7:12 pm

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>...or that Starfleet will allow ensigns to command starship, no matter how desperate they are.

>It would be like a cadet being made captain for one heroic mission!!

>


 


That would only happen if the Captain were emotionlly compromised and the Captain before him wrote a thesis on the Cadet's Dad. 

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