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Dec. 14 2010, 4:03 am
Yes, Voyager was launched with UPN. IT was the paramount network so of course that's where they put it. Why would paramount form a network and give trek to another network? Of course of all the shows UPN launched with Voyager was the only one to last more than one season. We tend to look at voyager and say the ratings were poor but an entire network rode on its back. I'd say that is a testament to its strength.
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Dec. 14 2010, 12:04 pm
Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:05 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 13 2010, 1:32 pm | >well with everything that i have seen it started towards the end of DS9. Of course it didn't help matters that they moved Voyager to the UPN, a network that not all fans could get, in its 4th season |
Voyager was always on UPN. Voyager was UPN's flagship show, in fact was the very first program ever showed on UPN. Voyager's series premier was actually decent, so that suggests that fans could get it somehow. It just couldn't hold it's audience always. Funnily enough, I believe DS9 still had higher ratings in syndication than Voyager did on a proper network. |
Though that is true, Voyager was, like TNG and DS9 before it, aired on other networks for the first 4 seasons (from Caretaker to Scorpion P1) it was then pulled from those networks once UPN, supposedly, was able to get onto its own two feet.
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Dec. 15 2010, 3:18 am
Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:04 pm | Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:05 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 13 2010, 1:32 pm | >
>well with everything that i have seen it started towards the end of DS9. Of course it didn't help matters that they moved Voyager to the UPN, a network that not all fans could get, in its 4th season |
Voyager was always on UPN. Voyager was UPN's flagship show, in fact was the very first program ever showed on UPN. Voyager's series premier was actually decent, so that suggests that fans could get it somehow. It just couldn't hold it's audience always. Funnily enough, I believe DS9 still had higher ratings in syndication than Voyager did on a proper network.
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Though that is true, Voyager was, like TNG and DS9 before it, aired on other networks for the first 4 seasons (from Caretaker to Scorpion P1) it was then pulled from those networks once UPN, supposedly, was able to get onto its own two feet. |
I'm bettting what you're referring to is "secondary affiliation" as far as Voyager goes which is what I'm betting what happened in your area. For the record, Voyager was never aired through another network. It was broadcast on UPN from the first day til the last day. UPN was always its own network and was always a proper network.
However, in some smaller markets (and probably yours) UPN programming would be ran late at night on already established local stations like local FOX affiliates or whatever station agreed to it. The reason being is that UPN may not have had a full fledged station in those smaller markets to carry it's programming. However, it needed to get carried in as many markets as possible so it would reach a deal with local TV stations in some areas to carry it's programming on top of whatever other network programming they did. They would even have the UPN logo in the corner, commercials and all. So for those two hours late at night or whatever, those local stations were essentially makeshift UPN affiliates.
For example, in Fort Wayne, Indiana, the local FOX affiliate made a deal with UPN to run its programming late at night or on weekends or w.e. because there was no UPN affiliate in Fort Wayne, then for the last couple of years of UPN's existence it was airing on Fort Wayne's local CBS station before the WB and CW merged.
As it just so happened, I received the full powered UPN affiliate out of Indianapolis and then the CBS affiliate out of Fort Wayne on my cable system. I could watch Enterprise on Wednesday nights on the Indy UPN. Then on a late Saturday Night I could watch Enterprise again on the Ft. Wayne CBS station. Would be the same episode and all. No need for a DVR or VCR when I knew that if I missed the original airings, then I could catch it again during the weekend! I could do that with any UPN show.
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Dec. 15 2010, 3:49 am
Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 15 2010, 3:18 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:04 pm | Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:05 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 13 2010, 1:32 pm | >
>well with everything that i have seen it started towards the end of DS9. Of course it didn't help matters that they moved Voyager to the UPN, a network that not all fans could get, in its 4th season |
Voyager was always on UPN. Voyager was UPN's flagship show, in fact was the very first program ever showed on UPN. Voyager's series premier was actually decent, so that suggests that fans could get it somehow. It just couldn't hold it's audience always. Funnily enough, I believe DS9 still had higher ratings in syndication than Voyager did on a proper network.
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Though that is true, Voyager was, like TNG and DS9 before it, aired on other networks for the first 4 seasons (from Caretaker to Scorpion P1) it was then pulled from those networks once UPN, supposedly, was able to get onto its own two feet. |
I'm bettting what you're referring to is "secondary affiliation" as far as Voyager goes which is what I'm betting what happened in your area. For the record, Voyager was never aired through another network. It was broadcast on UPN from the first day til the last day. UPN was always its own network and was always a proper network.
However, in some smaller markets (and probably yours) UPN programming would be ran late at night on already established local stations like local FOX affiliates or whatever station agreed to it. The reason being is that UPN may not have had a full fledged station in those smaller markets to carry it's programming. However, it needed to get carried in as many markets as possible so it would reach a deal with local TV stations in some areas to carry it's programming on top of whatever other network programming they did. They would even have the UPN logo in the corner, commercials and all. So for those two hours late at night or whatever, those local stations were essentially makeshift UPN affiliates.
For example, in Fort Wayne, Indiana, the local FOX affiliate made a deal with UPN to run its programming late at night or on weekends or w.e. because there was no UPN affiliate in Fort Wayne, then for the last couple of years of UPN's existence it was airing on Fort Wayne's local CBS station before the WB and CW merged.
As it just so happened, I received the full powered UPN affiliate out of Indianapolis and then the CBS affiliate out of Fort Wayne on my cable system. I could watch Enterprise on Wednesday nights on the Indy UPN. Then on a late Saturday Night I could watch Enterprise again on the Ft. Wayne CBS station. Would be the same episode and all. No need for a DVR or VCR when I knew that if I missed the original airings, then I could catch it again during the weekend! I could do that with any UPN show. |
It was a fox affiliat, and it ran in the same time slots that DS9 and TNG ran during thier together.
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Dec. 15 2010, 10:26 pm
Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 15 2010, 3:49 am | Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 15 2010, 3:18 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:04 pm | Quote: WkdYngMan @ Dec. 14 2010, 12:05 am | Quote: Camorite @ Dec. 13 2010, 1:32 pm | >
>well with everything that i have seen it started towards the end of DS9. Of course it didn't help matters that they moved Voyager to the UPN, a network that not all fans could get, in its 4th season |
Voyager was always on UPN. Voyager was UPN's flagship show, in fact was the very first program ever showed on UPN. Voyager's series premier was actually decent, so that suggests that fans could get it somehow. It just couldn't hold it's audience always. Funnily enough, I believe DS9 still had higher ratings in syndication than Voyager did on a proper network.
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Though that is true, Voyager was, like TNG and DS9 before it, aired on other networks for the first 4 seasons (from Caretaker to Scorpion P1) it was then pulled from those networks once UPN, supposedly, was able to get onto its own two feet. |
I'm bettting what you're referring to is "secondary affiliation" as far as Voyager goes which is what I'm betting what happened in your area. For the record, Voyager was never aired through another network. It was broadcast on UPN from the first day til the last day. UPN was always its own network and was always a proper network.
However, in some smaller markets (and probably yours) UPN programming would be ran late at night on already established local stations like local FOX affiliates or whatever station agreed to it. The reason being is that UPN may not have had a full fledged station in those smaller markets to carry it's programming. However, it needed to get carried in as many markets as possible so it would reach a deal with local TV stations in some areas to carry it's programming on top of whatever other network programming they did. They would even have the UPN logo in the corner, commercials and all. So for those two hours late at night or whatever, those local stations were essentially makeshift UPN affiliates.
For example, in Fort Wayne, Indiana, the local FOX affiliate made a deal with UPN to run its programming late at night or on weekends or w.e. because there was no UPN affiliate in Fort Wayne, then for the last couple of years of UPN's existence it was airing on Fort Wayne's local CBS station before the WB and CW merged.
As it just so happened, I received the full powered UPN affiliate out of Indianapolis and then the CBS affiliate out of Fort Wayne on my cable system. I could watch Enterprise on Wednesday nights on the Indy UPN. Then on a late Saturday Night I could watch Enterprise again on the Ft. Wayne CBS station. Would be the same episode and all. No need for a DVR or VCR when I knew that if I missed the original airings, then I could catch it again during the weekend! I could do that with any UPN show. |
It was a fox affiliat, and it ran in the same time slots that DS9 and TNG ran during thier together. |
Very possible, but that was likely the secondary affiliation. Which FOX affiliate was it?
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Dec. 16 2010, 3:54 am
Toledo oh
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Dec. 17 2010, 2:45 am
Toledo Ohio had a UPN Affiliate through WNGT-TV.
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Dec. 17 2010, 3:48 am
Yes i know this, but for some reason we were unable to get it where i lived at that time, as was the case with several other Toledo stations.
"What i Hate more then anything else is someone that thinks that they know everything. That must mean that I really hate myself", "Freedom is the right of all setient beings!" (Optimus Prime: Transformers), "That's on small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!" Neil Armstrong 8-5-30 to 8-25-12
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