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Why weren't Klingon Birds of Prey painted Grey?

Ghostmojo

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 9:51 am

Why weren't Klingon Birds of Prey painted Grey? All the other Klingon vessels in ST:TOS and ST:TNG seemed to be various shades of grey. It was the Romulans who (eventually) seemed to opt for green, although even their early ships seemed to be greyish/whitish. I know the Bird of Prey that appeared in ST3:TSFS was originally supposed to have been a Romulan ship (in search of the Genesis device) but the producers changed their minds (pity - there was a definite surfeit of Klingons in the films).


So why didn't they get around to respraying the model grey I wonder?

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 11:11 am

First of all, klingon attack cruisers and negvars were more green than gray. You want a non canon explanation, here goes. Many times warriors paint themselves and their vessels in crazy bright colored schemes to frighten their enemy or to invoke gods/spirits. The bird of prey was atmospheric capable whereas the battle cruiser was not. The paint scheme would thereby be useful in planetary battles in scaring the locals.
Also, the 60s had blander art and architecture than the 80s and Matt Jeffries was highly functional in his designs.

Lieutenant_Jedi

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 8:44 pm

Green is cooler.

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 9:00 pm


"It's not easy, bein' green...


Having to spend each day the color of the leaves..."


 


 My apologies.


 


Back to seriousness. Well... let us just say that Star Trek is not exactly famed for their continuity. So many things changed radically from TOS to TNG, possibly the most obvious being the Klingon makeup. . . 


Invader_Wishfire

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 11:37 pm

Actually, that's backwards. Over-all, white/grey seemed to be the exception, not the norm.

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Ghostmojo

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Report this Nov. 30 2010, 2:53 am

The first Kilngon ships we ever see in ST:TOS were grey/white. The first Romulan ships we see were also grey/white (but with the bird painted on). I guess the design approach wasn't that advanced at the time. The original Romulan ship model looked like it might have been made by carving up a constellation class star ship - the hull was virtually like an earth ship as were the nacelles. I guess it was all down to budget. When the first motion picture appeared - everything was given an overhaul and both Enterprise and Klingon ships looked superb.

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Report this Nov. 30 2010, 2:52 pm

See I would think a starship with a cloaking device would be painted flat black.

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Report this Dec. 01 2010, 1:32 am

I agree. A bird of prey's hull should be black, to be less visible in space.  And any lights should be red.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 01 2010, 5:46 am

In the Shatner book "The Return" the defiant class USS Monitor is painted black with no markings for such a stealthy purpose. However, the klingons may value intimidation over stealth. In the ent relaunch, it is said romulans paint their ships green because their blood is green so it is an intimidating color. Of course, it wouldn't be intimidating for klingons to paint their ships pink.

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Report this Dec. 01 2010, 10:19 pm

Klingons' blood is supposed to be red. But, pink tends to take the aggression out of an adversary. The visiting team's room at the University of Iowa (I think) is painted pink, to make them less-aggressive! So, maybe the bird of prey should be painted pink, to lower the enemy's resistance.

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Report this Dec. 01 2010, 10:27 pm

cuz grey is lame! someone on the art design staff for tng probably just decided one day to paint the model green, because green is more AWESOME than grey. they filmed it and it was awesome, so it stuck. and gene said it was good. and it was.

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Report this Dec. 08 2010, 7:27 am

If you realy are tough you do not need to be intimidating, every instict tells me that Klingon ships should be Black with Crimson trim and markings : Crimson representing shed Blood and Black representing impending Death - something no Warrior has a deep fear of.


As for the color in the original series, we need to remember filming was a great deal more rudimentary than it is now, a ship would have to be brighter to be seen on film, so light grey would have had to do, as was the case with the Rommulan Bird Of Prey from 'Ballence Of Terror', i doubt Matt Jeffries would have intended them to be that color but it was nessary.


The Green motif i always felt looked bad, but it was established in "The Search For Spock' with Kruges Brell classed Scout Ship, but what everyone forgets is that in the original concept it was supposed to be a stolen Rommulan ship, they just overlooked the fact and it became a Klingon Ship, establishing that bouth Rommulans and now Klingon ships have the same dull green coloring.


 


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Report this Dec. 13 2010, 4:26 am

Quote: lbouldin @ Dec. 01 2010, 10:27 pm

...someone on the art design staff for tng probably just decided one day to paint the model green, because green is more AWESOME than grey. they filmed it and it was awesome, so it stuck. and gene said it was good. and it was.


Nice story, except the BOP model was originally made nearly five years before TNG even hit the airaves.

Someone mentioned painting a ship black...I remember actually seeing a black ship in TNG once and it looked pretty badass.

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Report this Dec. 13 2010, 8:59 am

I would think that the Klingons would have painted their ships black. That would have been far more intimidating.

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Report this Dec. 13 2010, 9:09 am

why would color matter so much since you detect ships by sensors not sight. Painting it black wouldn't make it any more stealthy

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