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Are there any Star Trek fans left?

Ratty73

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Report this Nov. 09 2010, 3:59 pm

I've liked Star Trek since I was 5 I'm 37 now and married with a 4 year old. I walked down the aisle to the Enterprise theme tune as the words matched the situation I was in.


I like all the series. I have all the DVD's and all the Movies apart from the remastered ones. Some episodes I don't watch because they make me uncomfortable.  


Star Trek 11 made me cry as my Mum was killed when I was a teenager.

OtakuJo

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Report this Nov. 09 2010, 4:35 pm

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I am not a Star Trek fan although I watch it, it is very wicked and a lot of homosexual allusions and inferences. Sisco was very good, he was hetero, and also Picard but many of the other men were effeminate and abusers of themselves with mankind.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

FYI There was an episode where Picard had his way with a young lady he wasn't married to or even really liked - I think her name was Vash. So you better cross him of your acceptable Captains list. Lets not even mention Kirk or Riker or Bashir!

Nah -- let's. It's more fun that way.

Bashir is kind of an eager puppy and I guess he kind of learnt as he went. Glad that Jadzia never fell for his cheesy pick--up lines even though as characters go melikes Julian a heap more than Jadz.

Riker is so constantly on heat. If you dropped him in the middle of a deserted forest in ten minutes he'd probably be trying to shag the nearest tree.

And Kirk likes to eat his greens.

Have you ever danced with a Tribble in the pale moonlight?

2takesfrakes

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Report this Nov. 09 2010, 10:23 pm

... for me, STAR TREK is a Guilty Pleasure.
I'm not fond of how it panders to the liberals.
I'm a staunch Republican and devout Roman Catholic.
However, I find the shows to be more thoughtful than
other sci-fi fare. I also enjoy the adventure of it.
The spectacle and bizarreness of it is very appealing.
And, you know, when Jolene Blalock's on the screen,
it has my attention, anyway ....

konarciq

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Report this Nov. 11 2010, 6:09 am

I wouldn´t read and write here if I didn´t like Star Trek ;-)


That doesn´t mean I have a Star Trek decorated appartment, and own all the dvd´s and books, and a Starfleet uniform, and all those other gadgets, and talk about nothing but Trek all day. But I do enjoy the series very much, both the scifi, the adventure, the emotional and the philosophical sides of it.


Would that qualify for being a Star Trek fan?


If there is nothing wrong with me, then maybe there´s something wrong with the universe? -Dr. Crusher

miklamar

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Report this Nov. 16 2010, 11:56 pm

TOS was a true pioneer when it was first broadcast--indeed, until TNG appeared. TNG benefitted tremendously from the cinematic advances that had occurred in-between the two series, and our culture had changed, too. Sexist attitudes had become politically incorrect, and events like the Vietnam war had changed many people's political attitudes.
After DS9 and Voyager, TNG episodes sometimes appear anachronistic, now. Yet, each series was a step toward our present "history" of the Federation, whose reach now stretches into the Delta and Gamma Quadrants, as well as throughout much of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants.

Var Miklama--Zakdorn, engineer. "A sound mind in a FULL body!" "Time, like latinum, is a limited quantity in the galaxy."

megan512

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Report this Nov. 17 2010, 2:23 pm

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Don't worry you're not alone. In my school the only other Trekkies that I know are two of my science teachers and i don't talk to them much about trek. Remember, there is and Infinite Diversity of fans in Infinite Combinations.


Yeah, a few of my teachers are Trekkies and after that the only other Trekkies I know are two friends. Coming on the boards reminds me that there are so many other people out there who are fans.

"Captain, life is not a dream." - Spock "Can you please continue the petty bickering? I find it quite intriguing." - Data

Jake Sisko

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Report this Nov. 17 2010, 3:03 pm

I think there's still a few but unfortunately ST fans will be a dying breed as long as true Trek doesn't come back, which I fear won't happen. True JJ "revitalized" the franchise as some would say (I don't particularly agree) and put some money in the coffers but it's just different. 10 years after they finish this trilogy or so, Trek will truly be dead because the last imprint will have been popcorn entertainment that people usually forget about after 24 hours.

They’ve given away their humanity with this genetic manipulation… Many of the qualities that they breed out, the uncertainty, the self-discovery, the unknown, these are many of the qualities that make life worth living… well, at least to me. I wouldn’t want to live my life knowing that my future was written, that my boundaries had been already set. Would you? -Jean-Luc Picard

Jake Sisko

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Report this Nov. 17 2010, 3:24 pm

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I'm a fairly younger, newer fan... so I have plenty of material to get through! I love what I've seen of Star Trek, which is most of it, just not much of TOS and TNG.


That's great! Tell me what turned you on to Star Trek in the first place? Btw, in my humble opinion, TNG is the second best series so I envy you watching it for the first time.

They’ve given away their humanity with this genetic manipulation… Many of the qualities that they breed out, the uncertainty, the self-discovery, the unknown, these are many of the qualities that make life worth living… well, at least to me. I wouldn’t want to live my life knowing that my future was written, that my boundaries had been already set. Would you? -Jean-Luc Picard

Jake Sisko

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Report this Nov. 17 2010, 3:53 pm

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Kesfan74656, I disagree with your assessment. Star Trek fans don't receive ridicule or harsh criticism because they "pursue a fictional world." The fans of shows like "24" or "Lost" don't get ridiculed, and those worlds are just as fictional. Star Trek fans are ridiculed for the floolwing reasons: 1. Many of them come from a place of arrogance. If you don't know Kirk's cabin number on the original Enterprise, you're "not a true fan." Fans love to be able to create little cliques and heirarchies within fandom becuase it makes them feel important and special. They are also arrogant about being somehow "more enlightened" than other people, and they typically have illusions about how "important and smart" Star Trek is compared to other forms of entertainment. You often hear these fans referring to other entertainment as "being for the stupid masses" and stuff like that. 2. They are hypocritical to the point of it being laughable. They preach "IDIC" and "Roddenberry's message of tolerance," while doing NOTHING to practice it. They snipe at each other, they are judgemental, and are HORRIBLY abbrasive to anything that changes their precious franchise. 3. They are not only the biggest bunch of whiny, overbearing nitpickers...but they actually PRIDE themselves on it. They are negative about almost everything. How many football fans will gripe about hating the world just becuase the organization changes the offense and trades for a new QB? None! As long as your uniform still has that team name on it...you cheer for them! And it's JUST the fact that a football fan will sit through a snowstorm and watch their favorite team, even if they're having a down season, that makes them more likeable than the average Trek fan. Not only will the average Trek fan not go (how many people on this board whined and cried "JJ Abrams won't get any more of MY hard-earned money"???), but they'll do everything in their power to sabotage whatever it is they disapprove of until the more "desireable" changes are made. But, a Trek fan will rationalize this behavior by talking about their "passion." OK, but that's not an excuse to act like a spoiled jackass. 4. The sense of ownership in the franchise that most fans have is detrimental...NOT positive. The attitude is that Star Trek should be a democracy, and the franchise should "give the fans what they want." That is, of course, the worst kind of self-centered idiocy. First of all, the fans have NO IDEA "what they want." I can't remember the last time I saw fans agree on anything. Most fans have wank-ish ideas about LAME crossover stories (Sisko, Kes, and Reg Barcaly save the universe) or "intergalactic war." As much as I LOVE Star Trek, I am finding more and more that I dislike a good portion of the fans because of this kind of stuff. I suspect others feel the same way.


I know what you're saying and you make good points but you also sound mostly angry at this category of fans. Let them have their opinion, it shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of the franchise. Unfortunately these fans are the most visible and easily identifiable to non-fans so we all get thrown into the same basket. I'm a big fan but I don't own a uniform or speak Klingon or go to conventions, there's all kinds of ST fans. I don't really agree with your sports comparison, if I can make one myself; I'm a Superman fan but I don't care if Smallville for example has bad cheesy stories or if they screw-up the Superman mythos. Because it's an alternate reality, a different medium and a different take on the character. While Start Trek is first and foremost a TV and movie product so if they completely change that there's nothing to go back to in order to get to the essence of it.

They’ve given away their humanity with this genetic manipulation… Many of the qualities that they breed out, the uncertainty, the self-discovery, the unknown, these are many of the qualities that make life worth living… well, at least to me. I wouldn’t want to live my life knowing that my future was written, that my boundaries had been already set. Would you? -Jean-Luc Picard

Caesar753

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Report this Nov. 17 2010, 7:03 pm

I've been a proud trek fan for 23 years, ever since I saw "Encounter at Farpoint" when I was 7.


Matthew Rogan

JazzTNG

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Report this Nov. 18 2010, 11:17 am

Two things:


First of all, I think that Star Trek has a lot of different kinds of fans. The franchise has produced a lot of different things for a lot of different people to get a lot of different enjoyment out of. It is a diverse and convoluted collection of characters, stories, themes, worlds, etc. And, as a result, no "true Star Trek fan" can possibly exist.


Personally, I love all things TNG - I dig the new Trek and enjoy various episodes from all of the seasons but that does not stop me as a fan of Star Trek from thinking that Enterprise was a fairly bad show or that Voyager was about 50/50 hit-or-miss, nor does it keep me from taking shots at particular TOS episodes or films. So.... What am I? Am I a "True Star Trek fan"? I am my own person, my own Trek fan - and I wonder how anyone can label any other fan any other way.


Second of all, I do not think hating Trek fans is the same as hating Star Trek. I myself, while enjoying conversations with and thoughts of many Trek fans, have also had it with much of the Star Trek community. The utterly ridiculous - and, at this point, tired - absurd overreactions and pathetic nit-picking from fans against the aspects of Trek that they do not like irritate me to no end. Look, I am sorry if you did not enjoy the latest Trek film, it is a perfectly acceptable opinion to have, but I do not want to hear irrational complaints that end just short of "J.J. Abrams killed my father - and raped my mother!!!!" I am not even sure that these people are the minority.... but I like to believe that they are, for my own sanity.


When all is said and done, I plan to continue my enjoyment of the certain parts of Star Trek that speaks to me the most and to criticize the other parts of Trek that do not, regardless of what other people say about them.


So, five-card stud, nothing wild. And the sky's the limit....

iBorg13

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Report this Nov. 18 2010, 10:27 pm

JazzTNG, liked what you said about the new film. It pisses me off when people pick up on tiny little things, it isn't my favourite trek film, but I still managed to take something away from it.


I am a relatively new fan (2 years and about 1 months) but I find I'm alot more open to what the franchise throws at us then someone who is, say a 20 year old fan. I guess, I'm in awe of seeing new episodes, and new adventures.

trekkie264692

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Report this Nov. 22 2010, 9:35 am

yes! we're out here! look around! everyone on this site is a star trek fan, maybe even a trekkie/trekker. there may not be as many as there were, but that is because we've only had small amounts of new star trek to hang onto. we're still here, but the producers aren't.


THIS WAS SENT BY A TRUE TREKKIE _\V/ (__) live long and prosper

trekkie264692

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Report this Nov. 22 2010, 9:37 am

we're all here, just look around! every person here is a fan! you're not the only one left, so let's keep it that way!


THIS WAS SENT BY A TRUE TREKKIE _\V/ (__) live long and prosper

jamesspock1

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Report this Nov. 22 2010, 12:27 pm

I believe all people here are fans, some like or dislike certain series or movie, but nobody wants Trek to die, I just hope to see better changes in the future.

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