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The near-ubiquity of English in the Federation

TyrThunor

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 8:28 am

Quote: Valoy @ Feb. 11 2011, 8:15 am

There IS W sound in Russian! Even in Chekov's first name! It shouldn't be spoken PaveL, but PaveW. Name of first dog in space, Лайка, should be spoken Wayka. Russian prison, Лубянка, should be spoken Woobyanka. Transliteration turns every Л into L. Polish Ł (W-sound) is also replaced to L. I don't know why. Maybe to make language easier to foreigners.

 

BTW...

Ч - ch

е - ye

х - ch like in German machen or auch

о - o (short, simple O, not owwwwwww)

в - v

 

Try to speak it 




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Valoy

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 8:32 am

I don't understand, but I'm sure it's something pointless and completely out of topic.

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TyrThunor

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 9:11 am

Quote: Valoy @ Feb. 11 2011, 8:32 am

I don't understand, but I'm sure it's something pointless and completely out of topic.
You don't take compliments well do you?

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 9:37 am

Quote: Valoy @ Feb. 11 2011, 8:15 am

There IS W sound in Russian! Even in Chekov's first name! It shouldn't be spoken PaveL, but PaveW. Name of first dog in space, Лайка, should be spoken Wayka. Russian prison, Лубянка, should be spoken Woobyanka. Transliteration turns every Л into L. Polish Ł (W-sound) is also replaced to L. I don't know why. Maybe to make language easier to foreigners.

 

BTW...

Ч - ch

е - ye

х - ch like in German machen or auch

о - o (short, simple O, not owwwwwww)

в - v

 

Try to speak it 



my whole family is from Russia, we all speak it. There is no W sound in the language.

Valoy

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 10:03 am

There's no H. W exists and feels good. You can hear it for example in this song (twice in title): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9q2mHCBmA


What part of Russia is your family from? There is a dialect in Polish where people speak Ł as L (and it sounds really funny). Russia is much bigger than Poland, so maybe there is a part where people do the same ^^


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Ghostmojo

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:02 pm

Quote: TyrThunor @ Feb. 09 2011, 2:07 pm

>Shakespear is an Ironic example. As germans love shakespear more than the english. It can translated into many languages, it's actually makes more sense in german as the grammar is much closer together


I don't think so. I studied Shakespeare at school. It is poetic and very English. I don't think we have ever lost our basic love for and understanding of our bard.


Mind you, I didn't study it in its original Klingon!


Anyway, leaving the subject slightly, I've watched Star Trek in Germany and it is just weird in spoken German!!! No disrespect - but I wish they had subtitled it rather than dubbed it. It doesn't work. Mind you to the average German Star Trek fan - the original American show might have sounded weird.


The X-Files DVD sets have some interesting extras. They show snippets of how the show was released around the world. You get to see brief segments of Mulder and Scully speaking in Spanish, Italian, Japanese etc. Very weird. Of course Duchovney and Anderson did not rerecord their parts - they were different voice actors in each country and sometimes have quite different tonal qualities as well as words.


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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:05 pm

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Feb. 11 2011, 1:02 pm

Quote: TyrThunor @ Feb. 09 2011, 2:07 pm

Shakespear is an Ironic example. As germans love shakespear more than the english. It can translated into many languages, it's actually makes more sense in german as the grammar is much closer together
I don't think so. I studied Shakespeare at school. It is poetic and very English. I don't think we have ever lost our basic love for and understanding of our bard. Anyway, I've watched Star Trek in Germany and it is just weird in spoken German!!! No disrespect - but I wish they had subtitled it rather than dubbed it.
Did the Scotty make German sound Scottish ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdZla4gKk0

Ghostmojo

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:08 pm

No T164, they did not. As I remember Scotty on German ST had a very deep accent. Doohan gave him quite a light higher register voice. Mind you, how the hell do you make a German sound Scottish?!!!


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Trekwolf164

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:10 pm

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Feb. 11 2011, 1:08 pm

No T164, they did not. As I remember Scotty had a very deep accent. Doohan gave him quite a light higher register voice. Mind you, how the hell do you make a German sound Scottish?!!!
Would make him a fine actor . Doohan probably could have done the dub if asked

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdZla4gKk0

Ghostmojo

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:12 pm

From what I know of German TV policy, all foreign shows are dubbed into German. They don't do subtitles. I supppose it provides quite a lot of work for voice actors.

Here you go Hans - you are playing Von Neelix for seven years!!!

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Trekwolf164

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 1:14 pm

Quote: Ghostmojo @ Feb. 11 2011, 1:12 pm

From what I know of German TV policy, all foreign shows are dubbed into German. They don't do subtitles. I supppose it provides quite a lot of work for voice actors. Here you go Hans - you are playing Von Neelix for seven years!!!
Nice to see they protect their actors

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdZla4gKk0

Valoy

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Report this Feb. 11 2011, 2:27 pm

I have to tell you that in PL Spock speaks pretty normal. I've heard him in this formal manner just when I became interested in original script.

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