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Unlikely couple: Seven and Chakotay

Cap.Marty.D.Young

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Report this Jun. 26 2012, 7:41 pm

I thought they hinted that Seven was becoming attracted to Chakotay in previous episodes. I thought they looked great together, sadly, we never truly got to see their romance develop on the screen.


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Report this Jun. 26 2012, 9:29 pm

i think that it is the things around ther left eyes that brot them together


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Report this Jul. 11 2012, 12:44 am

At Oz Trek /AUstralia Jery talked about "Human Error" and Seven/Chakotay


" Jeri spoke about how she liked playing the romance with Chakotay in the episode ‘Human Error’ but there was no through-line to the finale, even though they asked if they should play the subtext and build-up between the characters."


 

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Report this Jul. 11 2012, 1:26 am

I always thought that Janeway and Chakotay had great Chemistry but when they put Seven in there and they didnt even tell us they just surprised us with it, it upset me just a little bit. It seemed forced and that they wanted them to be together and try to convince the fans of this, it didnt work for me.

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Report this Jul. 12 2012, 4:03 pm

I was surprized but sort of makes sense. Okay so it makes no sense, but they couldn't put Janeway and Chakotay together . It had already been established between them that such a relationship would be completely inappropriate.


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starlisa

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Report this Jul. 12 2012, 6:50 pm

The thing is, a relationship for Janeway and Chakotay would not have been inappropriate when they got home. That's what made C/7 such a slap in the face to us J/C shippers. They got Chakotay with Seven at the very moment he could be with Janeway.  All those years of sexual tension, of fan expectation, and they pair him with another woman in the very last episode. I totally don't get it. But I think TPTB know it was a mistake so I hope lessons have been learnt.

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Report this Jul. 13 2012, 7:04 am

I felt so disappointed to find out that Seven and Chakotay become an item, I was hoping so much to see Janeway and him work things out?? It would have been such a wonderful continuation, knowing that a relationship formed once they got home. So sad. 


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Report this Jul. 14 2012, 5:43 am

I agree. Over the years, Janeway and Chakotay had become very close. They'd evolved from enemies, to comrades, to friends, to almost lovers. They'd been through so much together, had shared so much together, and had been each other's closest companion for seven years. That's a strong bond. How would they feel when Voyager was about to get home and things were to change? How would they feel about saying goodbye? Would they realize they needed each other? That despite their mutual efforts to find love elsewhere they really loved each other? Would Janeway promise to stand by him if he was made to answer for his maquis activities?


These were some of the questions I wanted answered in the finale. But instead we got Chakotay telling Seven he needed her and wanted to be close to her: a woman he'd never even been friends with. The romance may have been a pleasant surprise to some, but it was poor continuity and very bad writing. I expected better from Trek.

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Report this Jul. 19 2012, 8:20 pm

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>That kind of ass-pull of a relationship is right up there with killing off Trip.

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The death of Charles Tucker III has got to be the ass-pull of all ass-pulls!


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Report this Jul. 19 2012, 10:10 pm

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I agree. Over the years, Janeway and Chakotay had become very close. They'd evolved from enemies, to comrades, to friends, to almost lovers. They'd been through so much together, had shared so much together, and had been each other's closest companion for seven years. That's a strong bond. How would they feel when Voyager was about to get home and things were to change? How would they feel about saying goodbye? Would they realize they needed each other? That despite their mutual efforts to find love elsewhere they really loved each other? Would Janeway promise to stand by him if he was made to answer for his maquis activities? These were some of the questions I wanted answered in the finale. But instead we got Chakotay telling Seven he needed her and wanted to be close to her: a woman he'd never even been friends with. The romance may have been a pleasant surprise to some, but it was poor continuity and very bad writing. I expected better from Trek.


 


I couldn't agree with you more.


It would have been a truly special end to an already excellent series if the writers had directed the story this way... I would have loved to have seen whether Chakotay was penalised or praised for his work on Voyager. And yes, whether Janeway supported him through it (I have no doubt she would have!). Seeing Chakotay make a split-second choice to chase Seven strikes me as  the writers perhaps thinking a Janeway/Chakotay relationship would have been too hard or too long to write. Disappointing. 


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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 2:24 am

TPTB really need to be slapped round the face if they thought that they could pull that off, to be honest. and i would've loved to see there reception when they returned to earth, the briefings, trials and stuff, and how it worked out for seven chakotay and janeway


as for endgame, i say sue the writer that wrote it coz it was bad


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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 4:14 am

I hated Endgame. I have never been so disappointed with a series finale in my life.


 

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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 6:35 am

@JOYOFVGR Perhaps a new series with a new crew and all. Maybe SoN will graduate from STARFLEET to replace captain Janeway and return to the Delta Quadrant to rescue some BORGS with a new and sleek VOYAGER with all the new fittings traveling at Warp-30. HUH?  


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Report this Jul. 20 2012, 6:45 am

Why VOYAGER was discontinued is strange to me. It was the only constant series that seemed to be a lock for Sci-Fic enthusiasts. Nothing else comes close. Today we have to settle for junk and mostly 3rd and 4th rate children stuff. The STAR TREK concept is still classic.


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Report this Jul. 21 2012, 3:44 pm

Quote: joanna.knowles @ Jul. 19 2012, 10:10 pm

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>It would have been a truly special end to an already excellent series if the writers had directed the story this way... I would have loved to have seen whether Chakotay was penalised or praised for his work on Voyager. And yes, whether Janeway supported him through it (I have no doubt she would have!). Seeing Chakotay make a split-second choice to chase Seven strikes me as  the writers perhaps thinking a Janeway/Chakotay relationship would have been too hard or too long to write. Disappointing. 

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Extremely. Voyager was such a brilliant series. I think it's a shame Jeri Taylor left as she was a fantastic writer and really brought an emotional depth to the series that, in my opinion, the other writers didn't. I think if she'd been involved in the last few episodes then they would have been very different. I definitely think writing a mature J/C relationship was beyond the writers of the time, and that's sad, I think, as a large franchise like Trek should have been able to hire the best writers, those that can write exciting sci-fi and those who can write good relationships. They're so important to any show, no matter what the genre. IMO C/7, as written, was juvenile and an insult to both characters. I'll never understand why they went down that road when they had gold in J/C.


And of course Janeway would stand by Chakotay

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