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Intrepid Class Design

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 20 2010, 3:55 pm

Velaris and I have often debated the functionality/design of Intrepid class ships, specifically, landing gear.  Is landing gear REALLY useful?  I think so, Velaris thinks not.  Specs show the Defiant also has landing gear which Drexler said designers were forced to include but he doesn't think a starship would ever need to land.  I can see a deep space explorer putting down to serve as a base camp or for maintanence purposes.  What do you think?


 


Also, is Voyager handsome or ugly?  Functional or poorly designed?  Is the bridge layout good or not?  What about Voyager's design did you like or hate?


 


Personaly, I think it was a good, solid design.

Kesfan74656

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Report this Sep. 20 2010, 4:09 pm

It's one of my favorite ships. I find it a unique design.It looks sleek, fast. Janeway's office was a nice venue, and the variable-geometry nacelles were an intruiging design concept.She looks good from different angles. I wish we could have seen the Aeroflyer. I like that they aded the landing capability. In Voyager's situation, that ability could come in handy, as shown in the ep where they were working on her hull on a planet's surface. If they were suffering from a situation in which they needed to conserve power while conducting repairs,having that would come in handy, thus, agree with you.


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Report this Sep. 20 2010, 4:24 pm

I absoultly lovd voyagers landing gear bcuz lik we saw in 37's they had to land or not investigate an the condition blue lookd really good on janeway if u ask me that is

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 4:08 am

I disagree about the swing-wings. It seemed pointless and would be a potential engineering nightmare. When you look at starfleet ships, nacelles are placed every where, their placement clearly means nothing for establishing the warp field. The explanation of it protecting the fabric of space-time seemed a bit weak to me.

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 3:20 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Sep. 21 2010, 4:08 am

I disagree about the swing-wings. It seemed pointless and would be a potential engineering nightmare. When you look at starfleet ships, nacelles are placed every where, their placement clearly means nothing for establishing the warp field. The explanation of it protecting the fabric of space-time seemed a bit weak to me.


Well the decision to do an enviromental episode was made (TNG), and limiting warp travel was written into the show, so giving Voyager variable geometric nacelles to overcome this problem worked.

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Kesfan74656

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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 3:22 pm

Well, there is what one sees from a technical P.O.V., and what simply 'looks interesting', and that's my perspective.Shrug.


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Report this Sep. 21 2010, 3:32 pm

Quote: Kesfan74656 @ Sep. 21 2010, 3:22 pm

Well, there is what one sees from a technical P.O.V., and what simply 'looks interesting', and that's my perspective.Shrug.



Exactly, the moving "pylons" were different from what we were used to, and looked great going into warp.

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Report this Sep. 22 2010, 5:38 am

Quote: captbates @ Sep. 21 2010, 3:32 pm

Well, there is what one sees from a technical P.O.V., and what simply 'looks interesting', and that's my perspective.Shrug.



Exactly, the moving "pylons" were different from what we were used to, and looked great going into warp.[/
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I'll buy that, that the swing-wing gave her some identity and looked cool. But technically, what did it do, did they establish how this changed the warp field geometry so as not to damage space-time? Why didn't later designs do the same thing? Wouldn't a field balancer have been more efficient and better structurally?
Intrepids and sovereigns are my fav ships but I think voyager was less attractive with the nacelles raised.

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Report this Sep. 25 2010, 7:02 pm

I love the USS Voyager.  She's fast, powerful and damn good looking.  I have never been bothered by the movable pylons.  I think it's cool to see a little more 'action' as the ship goes to warp.  I'm not a big fan of the landing gear, though.  I just seems odd to me that such a large ship would take off and land on a planet.  

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Report this Sep. 26 2010, 4:10 am

The moving nacelles never bothered me, I just thought they were a cool feature.
The design of the ship was quite good, I thought; the sleek design was good for a ship that can enter atmospheres (I've always liked the idea of landing gear—it seems awkward to keep the ship floating around in space all the time, and sometimes landing the ship is the only option), and would also come in handy when travelling through nebulae.

So I think it had just about the right balance between functionality (something the Constitution and Galaxy classes didn't do quite so well) and beauty. I liked it.

The bridge design was all right, but it needed chairs! Tuvok and Harry must have got tired after a full duty shift of standing like that.

Kesfan74656

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Report this Sep. 26 2010, 10:41 am

To Dendodge re chairs at Ops and Tactical, I often thought the same thing, but, actually, there ARE chairs at those positions. They simply didn't often use them. My guess is that the actors probably looked better from a visual perspective standing upright at-station; that many directors preferred to have Tim and Garrett doing so.


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Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 28 2010, 7:54 am

According to the relaunch, after returning home, voyager was stripped of its ablative armor and other future tech given them by future janeway. Do you think starfleet would have done this for temporal continuity reasons? I would think they would take every tactical advantage they could. Why return voyager to her drawing specs?

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Report this Nov. 14 2010, 11:15 am

My like starship class. Intrepid have very beautifully view.This class have warp-gondola with warp 5/9. This construction di not damage sub space. Too interesting- this bio neural chain on this starship.Too this class ship have power computer core and on this ship can installation abliative sheelds and trans warp drive. Too this ship can land on planet surface. Me like design bridge. This ship can shoot quantum torpedos. Have very power phasers.


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Report this Nov. 16 2010, 4:08 pm

I agree with kesfan74656 1st post.

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Report this Nov. 20 2010, 3:56 pm

I think it's a good design, good looking, and functional. I think every ship would need landing gear it's a crucial part of any ship design. I love the layout of the bridge, it looks great.


 


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