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Assimilated Joined Trill

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 2:52 pm

So if/when the borg assimilate a joined Trill what would they do with the symbiant?  Obviously the nanoprobes would infest the symbiant but would the borg care about the 'worm'?  Would they specifically attach stuff to the worm?  When the host died, would they want to preserve the worm for its experience or even bond it with a computer?  What do you think?

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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 3:08 pm

Hmm..well, it seems wasteful, to discard a viable humanoid, who could serve as a drone, and thus, be one more soldier in their vast army of assimilation, and use whatever talents and experience both the symbiont and host had to the advancement/perfectionof the Collective.I'm no Borg expert, but, would not discarding the humaniod Trill be a waste of potential rescources, and isn't that against Borg ethics, so to speak? The symbiont's vast-depending on how many lives lead via Joining-experience would be in the mind of the host, and thus, once full assimilation has occured, the Collective's in a heartbeat, right, so, seems to me they would choose to keep the Joined pair intact.


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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 3:46 pm

Defiantly an interesting problem. I consider myself somewhat an expert on the Borg, yet i am at a loss for what they would do in this case. Obviously knowledge wise,the symbiant is of more value then the host is (of course this depends on how many lifetimes it has experienced), where as he/she would be of more value as a simple drone.

My guess, and this is only a guess, is that if they ever assimilated a joined Trill, the borg would also assimilate the symbiant, then posibly remove it during the final stages of assimilation (when they attach what external components to thier victoms) too hook it up directly into the hive mind. They would then use thier technology to assure that the host survives, and they would join the ranks of new Drones.

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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 4:08 pm

They will add the Trill technological and biological distinctivness to the collective, and toss away the Symbiont when the host dies.
All the knowledge from the host and Symbiont are part of the collective (almost) from the moment they are assimilated, so even after they die their conciousness still remains part of the Borg, as 7of9 once said it is almost like imortality.

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 15 2010, 7:28 pm

I had a similar thought and didn't want to post a new thread.
Do the borg assimilate chimpanzees, gorillas, mugato, and other primates?Seems like they would make good drones.

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Report this Dec. 15 2010, 7:37 pm

No canon reference I can recall. Not sure how it would be an asset to the collective... just another drone. (Which in itself IS an asset so - I stand corrected).
It would be far easier than assimilating a human, the apes/whatever wouldn't put up a terrible fight.

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Report this Dec. 15 2010, 9:27 pm

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Dec. 15 2010, 7:28 pm

I had a similar thought and didn't want to post a new thread. Do the borg assimilate chimpanzees, gorillas, mugato, and other primates?Seems like they would make good drones.


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Report this Dec. 16 2010, 5:01 pm

Given how sensitive Trill slugs are, it's likely they would die and take their host with them.

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 1:01 pm

Primates would be considered too primitive in my opinion. How would this add to the perfection of the borg? Really any skills primates had would already be present/assimilated by the borg by that point.

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 3:21 pm

I don't know about that...Borg threat recognition is on par with zombies from Dawn of the dead; animal reflexes would be a tremendous asset. Hell, even a BABOON looks over it's shoulder every once in a while.

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 11:35 am

MsChippy you are right. The Borg have no use for those that have no control. It would be a waste of time for them to over come the beast nature.

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 1:46 pm

Quote: Holberg @ Dec. 18 2010, 11:35 am

MsChippy you are right. The Borg have no use for those that have no control. It would be a waste of time for them to over come the beast nature.


Actually there would be at least one reason, and that would be if the creature in question had some sort of biological distinctivness that would be of value to the borg. After all we know that they have assimilated less advanced races in the past becuase of knowledge that they might possess (The Omega Directive), so why not a beast for its DNA.

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 10:04 pm

The Borg don't usually concern themselves with assimilating individuals, just civilizations. So, I think an individual Trill would be safe, but that planet would probably be a prize!

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Matthias Russell

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Report this Dec. 19 2010, 8:39 am

But if assimilating an entire planet, why not assimilate whatever animal life could serve a function, especially primates.

Chippy could be right since the borg avoided the Kazon. But that never made sense to me since even if a race is, well, stupid, they would still make good drones! You could wipe their memory if you don't want to keep their thoughts.

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Report this Dec. 19 2010, 10:46 am

Quote: Matthias Russell @ Dec. 19 2010, 8:39 am

But if assimilating an entire planet, why not assimilate whatever animal life could serve a function, especially primates. Chippy could be right since the borg avoided the Kazon. But that never made sense to me since even if a race is, well, stupid, they would still make good drones! You could wipe their memory if you don't want to keep their thoughts.


I agree here. Why would the Borg assimilate a prewarp culture, as Seven stated in The Omega Directive, dispite any knowledge that they might have had, and yet not assimilate the Kazon, which is definatly a space fareing culture. Again, i think that it would come down to biology, and what it could offer the collective in the whole.

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