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EnsignNate

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Report this Aug. 08 2011, 2:05 pm

In order to reach the widest audience possible, the movies inevitably pandered to the lowest common demoninator.  Which means one big bad guy, lots of gunfire, a love interest for the captain, tidy storyline, etc.


The essence of Star Trek really lends itself much better to a series than to a movie.  But the poor handling of the last series has kind of poisoned the well. 


teh whole situation is kind of a mess.  If you're CBS and you decide you want a new Trek series what do you do?  Its not a good idea to tie a new show to the movies.  You would have issues with different acors playing the same characters, potential storyline conflicts, etc.  You can't go there. 


The whole prequel thing kind of flopped.  The corpse of the Next Generation universe is not quite cold enough to completely ignore it, but its not like you could just jump back in where Voyager or DS9 left off.  Its simply been too long.  The other option would be to jump even further into the future, but then you're got to wrangle with the canon set down by the other series.  There's no prefect answer here. 


And once you've chosen a setting you've got to decide what kind of  show you want to make.  Is it mostly action adventure, something akin to Star Wars, or is it more cerebral like Next Generation.  Do you focus on interstellar politics, exploration, crew interactions, or something else.  Do you want tot be be preachy / "socially relevant" or something lighter with an element of comedy?  Do you make stand alone episodes, opt for serialization, or go with something in between like DS9.


Who knows?


The current muddled nature of the Star Trek "universe" I think is hindering the creation of a new show. 


 


 

crusherfan3

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Report this Aug. 08 2011, 7:59 pm

Quote: EnsignNate @ Aug. 08 2011, 2:05 pm

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>The current muddled nature of the Star Trek "universe" I think is hindering the creation of a new show. 

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The reason for that is because people are too picky! If they would just sit back and enjoy the new Star Trek series and movies that come out, instead of biting everyone's heads off about all the changes that they put in to make them new and interesting, then we wouldn't have to have conversations like this...


"I won't forget. I won't forget any of you." --Beverly Crusher, *Remember Me*

jonathansample

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Report this Aug. 09 2011, 9:01 am

Yes, I feel that it is time for Star Trek to return to its home on television.


Considering the technological advancements in production since the last series I believe it would be possible to finally do the franchise justice. Seeing as how the bar for space-based sci-fi television has been raised by shows like Firefly (referring to the quality of its characters, drama, and universe) I think we could not only bring Trek back to the people but make it the best Trek yet. 


It would be great to see a series set far beyond The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager timeline. Let's see that better humanity Picard always hoped for, or at least a future that's a little closer to it. Perhaps something with deep space exploration that truly goes where no one in the series has gone before. 


I joined Starfleet and all I got was this Red Shirt!

dombric

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Report this Aug. 14 2011, 9:28 pm

Quote: crusherfan3 @ Aug. 08 2011, 7:59 pm

Quote: EnsignNate @ Aug. 08 2011, 2:05 pm

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>The current muddled nature of the Star Trek "universe" I think is hindering the creation of a new show. 

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The reason for that is because people are too picky! If they would just sit back and enjoy the new Star Trek series and movies that come out, instead of biting everyone's heads off about all the changes that they put in to make them new and interesting, then we wouldn't have to have conversations like this...


I'm gonna have to keep reusing this message below that I first posted a couple of pages ago as long as you keep spilling rubbish:


If you were an honest Star Trek fan you wouldn't just want a new series for the sake of it. The things that set Star Trek apart from other shows are slowly being chipped away with every new series / movie. (In the case of the 2009 movie they took to it with a sledgehammer).


Is it a crime to have standards crusherfan3?


 


 

stonesama

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Report this Aug. 16 2011, 4:09 am

I was thinking along the lines of where the Federation is at the brink of annilation, races are sceceding left and right, war is everywhere, they are losing ground, etc etc.  With them fighting a losing war, or something similar, morals would play a major role, not to mention the Prime Directive, or the Temporal Prime Directive.  Its 3134 or something or other, deep space exploration is possible with new races on the table.  Bring in a lot of new tech that can be used to create new types of episodes, different types of travel.  


With current CGI, it would be cool to see some space battes, and nice CGI work (Compared to even Star Trek Enterprise), though Stargate Atlantis was a bummer in that department... 


I like the fun/happy/cliche Star Trek of TNG, but i'm sorta craving something like BSG in Star Trek.  I want the dark and gritty in the Star Trek world. After that, bring in some of the old writers and make another one more like TNG. And keep 'em coming!

canDarian

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Report this Aug. 21 2011, 2:23 pm

I always liked the idea of a show taking place in time where the Federation is on  the ropes DS9's The Siege of AR-558 made me a believer that it could be viable.


The one show though I would freaking love to see would be "The Empire" and would focus solely on a Klingon timeline,it's perfect the action is inherent the storys are already there just the Pilot alone showing Kahless just think of the opening sequence of Qam-Chee.


Lursa and B'etor,Mogh,Kor Koloth and Kang it goes on and on the storys are deep and pretty much already written all they have to do is shoot them.


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dellinos

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Report this Aug. 23 2011, 11:06 am

they should make a series out of st2009

Lazernugget

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Report this Aug. 24 2011, 9:56 am

I'd love a new series. I'd like it to be further into the future with epic technology.


 


 

Spartan470

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Report this Aug. 27 2011, 6:37 pm

There is so much out in the Star Trek universe that could be used.  The most popular seems to be a show about Riker and the Titan.  However, Jonathan Frakes is more into directing than acting these days.


Along the same lines, what ever happened to Thomas Riker, the "clone" of Riker due to a transporter malfunction.  That would be interesting to see what an "alternate" Riker would do.  Last we knew, he was in a Cardassian prison.


The movie, "ST: Nemesis" leaves open the possibility of B4 reintegrating Data's memory engrams.


Lots of possibilities.


Matt

dombric

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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 6:56 pm

Quote: Spartan470 @ Aug. 27 2011, 6:37 pm

>... what ever happened to Thomas Riker, the "clone" of Riker due to a transporter malfunction.  That would be interesting to see what an "alternate" Riker would do.  Last we knew, he was in a Cardassian prison.

>The movie, "ST: Nemesis" leaves open the possibility of B4 reintegrating Data's memory engrams.


Oooh I do like these two ideas Spartan470.


 

Dutchking2282

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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 8:54 pm

I thought that the series had a dedicated "Webisode" each week? Or am I mistaken? (Would love to have another series, BTW)

Aleron

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Report this Aug. 28 2011, 9:50 pm

Webisode?  I would be open to that, even though it would be a tad inncovenient for a lot of people that may not have reliable broadband.

When Enterprise ended, I was dissapointed that a saga ended, but at the same time, it was neccessary for Star Trek to take a breather from the airways.  Now that we've had that breather and a modern movie (which I have mixed feelings for to this day) I think the majority of old Trekkies and new ones would welcome a TV series or web series.

Although, I would be turned off it was set in the same univers as ST2009.  Would be very nice to return to their roots.  Of course, I'm biased being a huge VOY fan, and think that they should start where the series left off. 

dombric

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Report this Aug. 29 2011, 4:13 pm

Quote: Aleron @ Aug. 28 2011, 9:50 pm

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>... Now that we've had that breather and a modern movie (which I have mixed feelings for to this day) I think the majority of old Trekkies and new ones would welcome a TV series or web series.

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Although, I would be turned off it was set in the same univers as ST2009.  Would be very nice to return to their roots.  Of course, I'm biased being a huge VOY fan, and think that they should start where the series left off. 

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with you there Aleron although my feelings for st2009 are less mixed and more pulverized and if a new series was based in that universe I wouldn't even bother watching it.


As far as a web series I keep hoping a fan-based group is going to release something stunning one of these days. I thought Star Wrek: In the Perkinning was very good in its production quality and the acting was not too bad. Unfortunately, the story was pretty boring but it did give me hope that something good may come out in the next couple of years. Anybody got any fan-based stuff they love? 



Aleron

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Report this Sep. 01 2011, 12:50 am

I saw Star Wreck for sale at a store and came so close to buying it, but decided it wasn't worth it.

Is it supposed to be funny?  Like a cheesy parody?  I'm kind of curious about it. 

dombric

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Report this Sep. 01 2011, 4:20 pm

Yes Aleron, it is a cheesy parody but not very well done. It's only worth watching if you're interested in what level of production quality a fan-based unit can produce these days.


Now if they had had a young Isaac Asimov looking for someone to make a movie of one of his short stories combined with the production skills of the Star Wrek team I'd say we would have the first ever kick-ass fan-based movie that would make hollywood shake in its boots.


It's got to happen sooner or later...

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