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crusherfan3

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Report this Jun. 16 2011, 5:50 pm

I just don't understand why ST fans think they have to debate between series. To me, I love ALL Star Trek! I don't hate any of them, because it's all one big story to me. And I think the more people who keep posting how much they hated one series or another, the less chance there is that there will ever be any more!


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Rhaseley

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Report this Jun. 16 2011, 6:07 pm

The answer is very simple crusherfan3. If one does not criticise art the artist will never improve and if a producer is so sensitive that they will never return to create again, than so be it. Star Trek is the product of dreamers, and it will always be too great of a money maker for the industry to walk away from. 


and just like with any following, if you just say "I like them all." and deny the criticism, than you are simply blindly following the flow, and if you do that than you have completely missed the point and the essence of Star Trek.


Never fear there will be a new series. Producers are not dumb, they are simply building suspense to gain the maximum amout of ratings when they do anounce it, just as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows was completed more than a year before part one was ever released. 

dombric

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Report this Jun. 16 2011, 6:23 pm


I am with you Rhaseley,


"Well dombric, what you must remember is that TOS was, although an attempt to send a moral message to it's fans, it also had a flare of the "Wild Frontier" taste to it"


I agree and as a first ever Star Trek series in the 60s it had to have that element just to get onto television. What set it apart back then was that between the fight and romance scenes there was a lot of "let's consider this from a different point of view" about it. And that's what ignited the spark among those who wanted something different out of entertainment other than mindless rubbish.


"which is what Abrams was attempting to tap into. Whereas TNG had farmore basis in actual scientiffic theories." 


Why go back to the parts of TOS that were commonplace among many tv shows of that era instead of celebrating the things that were revolutionary about it? TNG was a celebration of those wonderful new ideas from TOS and it extended them so elegantly.


"However I enjoyed DS9 due to the way they challenged the altruesic mantality of the Federation and in a few rare cases altruism gave way to the cruel reality of war."


Here here. There were some wonderfully refreshing episodes which actually questioned the actions of the federation over other cultures. ie. seeing the situation from a non-federation point of view. I just love those kind of 'anti-cowboy' situations.


"Also the Romulans have never been portrayed as "inherently evil, who just want to kill and destroy." in the contrary they are a very complicated race who are proud to the point of arrogance, and cunning. But I can not think of a single episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, or VOY which describes them as ruthless or brutal."


Again I second your opinion. The Romulans I was referring to were the "kill first, ask questions later" breed from the 2009 movie. 


"In short, My enemy is not evil, we just cant find common ground right now."


This is gold and every damn thing they ever make in the Star Trek universe should use this comment as the cornerstone of the entire storyline.


"I just ask that the next television series progresses from Voyager and keeps the heart and soul of Gene Rodenberry's dream in mind."


Rhaseley, I salute you.


Conspired

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Report this Jun. 17 2011, 1:52 pm

Strangely enough, the most popular and best received Star Trek episodes and movies have dealt with time. TNG's series finale, VOY's series finale, Star Trek 2009, TNG First Contact, TOS The Voyage Home, etc. So why not base an entire series on time-travel?

CallidusTitan

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Report this Jun. 18 2011, 4:32 pm

I believe that a new Star Trek television series would be great. The time frame for the series would be between TOS and The Motion Picture. It would involve a Starfleet Experimental Heavy Cruiser that survives an encounter with a black hole and is constantly going back and forth in time. It would be known as the "ghost ship" that is constantly trying to find the right point in time before the black hole encounter to avert the situation. The ship incorporates outlawed cloaking technology that Starfleet mandated testing. It was this tech that saved the ship, the USS Icarus, when the crew encountered the black hole. The ship appears and then cloaks,..almost like the .."The Flying Dutchman" of old seaman tales. The Captain of the USS Icarus is a veteran of starfleet during the Klingon Wars and was selected due to a possible "war crimes" incident that would have ended his career. It was a "do this mission for us and we'll clean your service record" type of situation. He would be from orphaned circumstances from a colony world that was decimated by the Klingons as a young boy. The crew cast, of various temperments and different backgrounds, help the CPT with his flawed character that is gripped with hate and distrust of alien influence. The CPT's main weapon of choice on all away team mission is an old Model P Peacemaker, M1873, single action army, Colt 45 that belonged to his father and was the only item that survived the fire that engulfed his childhood home during the Klingon attack. His hobbie consists of packing his own .45 ammunition. 


If anyone wants to add or revise anything to this Star Trek Series idea feel free to post. 


   


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adsutter

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Report this Jun. 27 2011, 11:34 pm

Quote: Conspired @ Jun. 17 2011, 1:52 pm

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>Strangely enough, the most popular and best received Star Trek episodes and movies have dealt with time. TNG's series finale, VOY's series finale, Star Trek 2009, TNG First Contact, TOS The Voyage Home, etc. So why not base an entire series on time-travel?

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yes i agree and would hope that maybe the next series takes place upon the ship or station or whatever it was that seemed to be enacting as some guardian of timelines in the future of earth.


or if they decide to do another exploration/battle ship based series then i believe they should start completely anew and not be repeptitve like tng through ent. also to start anew i think it may be a good idea for them to leave the milkyway altogether and go explore another galaxy


if they do a series just after the movie based in the same new timeline (meaning they don't somehow come to fix the timeline to it's original state in the next sequal movie) i would be angry.. i do not wish to see the same races and somewhat similar occurences all over again. and especially do not wish to see all the star trek series completely rewritten.

dombric

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Report this Jun. 28 2011, 4:10 pm

"i believe they should start completely anew and not be repeptitve like tng through ent. also to start anew i think it may be a good idea for them to leave the milkyway altogether and go explore another galaxy"


That's the spirit, adsutter. Get some young, fresh scifi writers with amazing new ideas together in a room with the above premise and let them go for it. That's exciting stuff.


"if they do a series just after the movie based in the same new timeline (meaning they don't somehow come to fix the timeline to it's original state in the next sequal movie) i would be angry.. i do not wish to see the same races and somewhat similar occurences all over again. and especially do not wish to see all the star trek series completely rewritten."


Right with you here. I would be so angry as to completely ignore the whole series. By the way has anyone seen any cool fan made stuff. I saw "In the Pirkinning" by the Star Wrek crew http://www.starwreck.com/. I found the storyline somewhat boring and most of the gags pretty lame but the quality of production for a fan made show blew my mind. I watched some other fan made stuff a few years ago and it was pretty lousy. Surely, a fan-based production crew is going to bring out something wonderful in the next few years. Something unique in concept, high-quality acting and production would turn the Star Trek universe on its head.

Doug Britton

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Report this Jul. 01 2011, 9:04 pm

Of coarse theirs gona be another series the question should be "What is the next Star Trek series gona be about" I think a Star Trek meets Haloan elite troop that stomps out all the little brush fires around the Federation Special Forces it would be called Star Trek FSF It could span from the beginning  to date have its roots in the US Special Forces


Change is the one true constant in the universe you must adapt or be cut from the gene pool

dombric

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Report this Jul. 03 2011, 7:35 pm

Quote: Doug Britton @ Jul. 01 2011, 9:04 pm

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>Of coarse theirs gona be another series the question should be "What is the next Star Trek series gona be about" I think a Star Trek meets Haloan elite troop that stomps out all the little brush fires around the Federation Special Forces it would be called Star Trek FSF It could span from the beginning  to date have its roots in the US Special Forces

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What the ....? Why don't you stick to stargate!

adsutter

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Report this Jul. 04 2011, 6:37 am

HAHA yea can't say i agree with doug..  even though i believe the last ST series was probably the worst of them all i really did indeed like the fact that they had an actual team/military force onboard for security instead of other series where it seems only the brige crew runs around and fights the whole battle without the rest of the crew members on the ship(maybe 2 or 3 trailing with the security leader)..


 


also thank you dombric for the agreeance and compliment

Doctor_Bashir

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Report this Jul. 04 2011, 9:27 am

I very want continue series "Deep space nine" or series about space station.I really like "Deep space nine",me like watch continue this epic series with more many space battle and special effects.Maybe in futurewill be release movie,baseed on series "Voyager".Me as fan will be interesting waqtch movie on series.


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bobsagat

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Report this Jul. 05 2011, 5:51 pm



Let us think like a ferengi for a little bit. How can a new star trek possibly make them do better than they are now? They currently have all the cop shows that are doing insanely well and they have a few sitcoms for other audiences. In actuallity CBS doesnt need star trek at all at this point, but it's good to have a plan B right? No one should really be thinking about this until cop shows start to die out and the world wants star trek again. However if they were to make a new Star Trek show the chances of them Hollywoodizing it to armegedon are virtually 99-1. As one may recall the past Star Treks had at most 2 models in there shows, whereas everyone in the 2009 movie was a model at some point! Even Spock! There is to much to go wrong unfortunatly. The only way they can keep the actors in there (new) storyline from undergoing the vampire sex scenes (ugh) is to actually encorporate love into the story (say what you want about ENT but they encorporated love without to much sex extremely well). This little experiment was done with Star Gate Universe, and we all know how terrible the result was. I'm all for change, but that change should be camera angles at most. 

Howevr if this magical idea of a perfect new star trek somehow came into being I would ask for only this.


Holodecks- for the moment where one gets sick of technology and wants to turn to nature fantasy and countless other options. (loved that about TNG) 


Q- cas hes the best sassy guest star any sci fi show has ever had (thats why he was also on SG, and come on who doesnt love Q.


Emphasis on Morals- 2009... ugh was there even a message? Im sorry i couldnt see it past the butts boobs and abbs and cgi that was throne into my face constantly. (at least it drew in new audiences even it was for the wrong reasons)



HaventGotALife

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Report this Jul. 05 2011, 6:06 pm

I have a feeling after these two new movies are released we may see a new series with perhaps an unfamiliar crew.


 


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HaventGotALife

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Report this Jul. 05 2011, 6:30 pm

Some of the series were better than others. Some held to Gene's vision, had interesting characters, and said something about humanity and others did not (namely Voyager and Enterprise). I think the problem with Enterprise is that it was like every other Star Trek show. This is the first time we will encounter these species and we're acting like, by the second season, they have been doing this all along and that they have a fleet of ships. The adventure isn't the only thing that should be there from the Original Series. Dialogue should be different. It's over 200 years before the 24th century. However, they kept it safe and it ruined a unique idea. The Vulcans were cast as hypocrites and that didn't endear the series to anything. There should've been alliances made, new planets discovered, and the crew figuring out how to write the book on space travel.


Voyager should've been a deliberate mission. An engine that could get us that far out there and then we have to make our way back. We will probably have to have people who commit their lives to exploration if manned flights in our solar system ever become a reality. What better way, especially in the middle of Borg attacks and the Dominion threat, to say "we are explorers, let's go!" than to make it a legitimate mission. That takes away the mission to "get home." That takes away Janeway's guilt. That takes away her pain. Everyone on this ship signed up to explore! And in that mode, we find the new planets, the new dangers, and all the other things inherent in space travel. We'd have to find renewable energy sources, to grow our own food. We believe in exploration so much that we don't have a set timetable. We know not what's out there, but let's face it. Much better series that way.


 


 


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joseirizarry

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Report this Jul. 28 2011, 4:20 pm

I want to suggest a new Star Trek series called: Star Trek: STARFLEET. We seen spaceships with male and female captains, we seen space stations, but we have never seen the birth of Starfleet on Earth. This series can be a fresh new way to continue the Star Trek Universe with new characters, plots and scenery. We can see the making of our best and finest captains, ambassadors, ensigns, medical staff, and engeneers. We can see the cadets straggles and their graduation and how they are assigned to their post. We need Star Trek to continue and this can be a great way to do that. I was actualy thinking this series can be place some time before TNG so we can see some of our best character at the beginning of their career like a young Jean-Luc Picard and a young Kathryne Janeway as classmates, how Worf end up in Starfleet, how Chakotay started in Starfleet but end up leaving, how Data was discover and end up going to Starfleet, how Deanna Troi and William Riker met and started their romance, how Deep Space Nine was established and so on. Can you picture seen all this great characters together as young cadets and how they ended up with different assignments. This series can be the glue that ties all the series together.

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