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What Was The Point Of Star Trek 5?

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Report this Aug. 16 2010, 9:25 pm

What Was The Point Of Star Trek 5?


"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name... Enterprise"

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Report this Aug. 16 2010, 9:35 pm

That William Shatner wanted to direct a movie,
which he had not been asked or encouraged to do,
before. And once he had control over that project,
his only intention was to make it a valentine to his
own character. With the secondary intention of meeting
not an alien posing as god, but the devil himself, posing
as god. Once again proving that Kirk is a mighty bad-ass ...
with all his crew looking on and admiring him for being so.

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Report this Aug. 16 2010, 9:37 pm

I do not think they liked doing this movie

"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name... Enterprise"

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Report this Aug. 16 2010, 9:44 pm

It would seem not! It's also interesting to note
that the bad guy in it was Vulcan. Perhaps a petty jab
at Nimoy for getting to direct STAR TREK, twice before.
In fact, it was Nimoy who suggested making Sybok Spock's
brother, if Spock were going to be made to "betray" Kirk's
order to kill him. Even Spock was going to surrender to
Sybok's powers, if Nimoy hadn't objected.

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Report this Aug. 16 2010, 10:08 pm

I personally liked this movie. I thought it was a good reflection of the bond between three friends and the test of time on their friendship. Also it was the first time we got to see them in a real setting outside their Starfleet duties. Shatner actually wrote a better movie, but due to budget cuts, George Lucas stealing ILM and Sean Connery for Indianna Jones, and a few other disasters, the movie didn't turn out as good as the Shat planned.

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Report this Aug. 17 2010, 4:35 am

What was the point? Maybe to show that Shatner is better in front of the camera.

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Report this Aug. 17 2010, 4:37 am

I see that once again, you can't have a thread without something getting a little bit personal and nasty (low blows at Shatner, etc).

1. Star Trek V, for all it's faults and failures, was FAR from the horrible movie that sniveling fans like to pretend.

2. Star Trek V had some of the BEST character moments and development in the movie series (camp fire scene, observation lounge scenes, etc)

3. It was the only film in the series that had me genuinely excited about a trip into the unknown, which was certainly the case with TOS when I first started watching that.

4. The cast, for the most part, still to this day will claim that they enjoyed their experience on Star Trek V and that Shatner was a good director to work for. Know your facts before you start making broad, uneducated assumptions.

4. Shatner's original story outline was a much more serious and intense piece of work. But first Paramount insisted that the slapstick humor be included to try and re-capture the success of Star Trek IV, then they hacked the budget and were merciless on the deadlines. Sure, Shatner and Harve Bennett can take some of the blame for what happened, but there were definitely major factors that were beyond their control.

5. The Sybok character was actually quite interesting. He was not supposed to be a villian, but more of a foil for the crew...and a vehicle to provide the journey (both literally and spiritually) that the movie was supposed to be about. The VILLIAN was the creature they found at the Galactic Center.

The "point" of Star Trek V was the same as any other Trek movie: To have an adventure in outerspace with the characters we know and love. What other "point" were we looking for?


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Report this Aug. 17 2010, 5:21 am

Sybok was far more a villian than the creature ever was.
For one thing, outside of screwing with Sybok's and only
Sybok's mind, the creature couldn't even get to the ENTERPRISE
parked in orbit ... not without "bringing it closer". So he was
pretty useless as a villian, unless you actually beamed down.

Sybok, on the other hand, manipulated his own brother, brainwashed
all of Kirk's crew, imprisoned those that refused, and was exposed
the ENTERPRISE to a cheezy crap-fest called "The Great Barrier" ...
Oh! And how did he know that ENTERPRISE "A" would have a minimal
compliment and ship problems to facilitate his taking it over? Answer:
He wouldn't. And when he put the whammy on the crew, he stated that
their minds were not controlled by him. So basically, the crew each
voluntarily committed mutiny against Kirk/Spock/Bones. HA! "Only a foil".

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Report this Aug. 17 2010, 6:35 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Aug. 17 2010, 5:21 am

Sybok was far more a villian than the creature ever was. For one thing, outside of screwing with Sybok's and only Sybok's mind, the creature couldn't even get to the ENTERPRISE parked in orbit ... not without "bringing it closer". So he was pretty useless as a villian, unless you actually beamed down. Sybok, on the other hand, manipulated his own brother, brainwashed all of Kirk's crew, imprisoned those that refused, and was exposed the ENTERPRISE to a cheezy crap-fest called "The Great Barrier" ... Oh! And how did he know that ENTERPRISE "A" would have a minimal compliment and ship problems to facilitate his taking it over? Answer: He wouldn't. And when he put the whammy on the crew, he stated that their minds were not controlled by him. So basically, the crew each voluntarily committed mutiny against Kirk/Spock/Bones. HA! "Only a foil".


You're completely entitled to your opinion. Nothing you've said is going to change my view of the film or of the character.

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Report this Aug. 17 2010, 7:23 am

the point was that there is no god outside our minds, but entities with similair influence. The search for god is ultimately the search for your self

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