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The Rank System: When Worf Joined DS9 He Got A Red Uniform And Data Is The Same Rank Like Him But Data Wear Yellow, Why is That?

NCC1701RS

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Report this Aug. 14 2010, 5:45 pm

Been Watching Alot Of DS9 And TNG Today And I was Puzzled By The Rank Colors.


Data wears yellow and Worf wears Red and they are both the same rank why is that?

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Report this Aug. 14 2010, 6:35 pm

The colors of the uniforms indicate where the crew members work. Yellow is typically for crewman working in engineering, security, and operations. Blue is for science and medical. Red is for command, control, and communications officers.


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Report this Aug. 14 2010, 10:18 pm

Worf wore a yellow uniform after he was promoted in Generations and in the first episode he showed up in DS9, then transferred from Operations to command and changed to a red uniform. Interestingly though he continues wearing red in Nemesis when he is assigned back to Security on the Enterprise.

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Report this Aug. 14 2010, 11:15 pm

Quote: williamslakesm @ Aug. 14 2010, 10:18 pm

Worf wore a yellow uniform after he was promoted in Generations and in the first episode he showed up in DS9, then transferred from Operations to command and changed to a red uniform. Interestingly though he continues wearing red in Nemesis when he is assigned back to Security on the Enterprise.


As far as First Contact and Insurrection goes, I always thought he still wore red because he wasn't there permenantly. He was just basically there visiting, so there wasn't any need to change his uniform. However Nemesis I really don't know what happened, because at the end of DS9 he leaves starfleet to be the ambassador to the Klingon Homeworld, and then in Nemesis it's as if that never happened. First Contact and Insurrection that kinda sorta tried to explain it, and then didn't even bother with Insurrection.

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Report this Aug. 15 2010, 12:18 am

I Read some where online that worf son became an ambassador idk if it was starfleet or for the klingons. But we should all know that worf was faithful to the enterprise crew. In Nemesis i heard he became the First Officer Of The Enterprise Since Data Died.


I dont know what to believe but most of them are rumors and ideas that we can make up for the characters.

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Report this Aug. 15 2010, 4:22 pm

Well whoever was second officer of the Enterprise would automatically be put as the ACTING First Officer until either they were confirmed to that position or a replacement was found. As for the ranks, thats pretty simple.

Worf in TNG was Deputy then Chief of Security. When he transferred to DS9, he became Strategic Operations. When he returned to the Enterprise during Nemesis, I am assuming he was actually still technically in Strategic Operations but sort of 'stood in' for the Chief Tac.

And yes, Worf did technically become and Ambassador from the Federation to the Klingon Empire.

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Report this Aug. 15 2010, 7:03 pm

worf switched divisions?


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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 1:10 am

Colors are not ranks. The pips on the collors are ranks. Red uniforms are command division and Yellow is for security/engineering/operations kind of stuff. Blue is sciece and medical

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 1:25 am

Recall, too, that when Geordi switched from command as CONN officer, to Engineering at the beginning of season 2, he also switched from a red uniform to gold, and that in the episode where Capt. Jelico took command of the Enterprise (can't remember the episode title) and replaced Riker w/Data as first officer, Data wore red.

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 2:54 pm

As said earlier, just like in TOS, the shirt/uniform color denoted which department people were in. With the TOS Movie uniforms it was the undershirt and insignias.

As for the Ambassadorship, Worf became a Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS . Worf tendered his resignation to UFP President Nanietta Bacco, because he wished to return to active duty. Alexander Rozhenko, or Alexander, Son of Worf, House of Martok, then became the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS after Worf resigned.

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 5:33 pm

Quote: Sora @ Aug. 14 2010, 11:15 pm

Quote: williamslakesm @ Aug. 14 2010, 10:18 pm

Worf wore a yellow uniform after he was promoted in Generations and in the first episode he showed up in DS9, then transferred from Operations to command and changed to a red uniform. Interestingly though he continues wearing red in Nemesis when he is assigned back to Security on the Enterprise.
As far as First Contact and Insurrection goes, I always thought he still wore red because he wasn't there permenantly. He was just basically there visiting, so there wasn't any need to change his uniform. However Nemesis I really don't know what happened, because at the end of DS9 he leaves starfleet to be the ambassador to the Klingon Homeworld, and then in Nemesis it's as if that never happened. First Contact and Insurrection that kinda sorta tried to explain it, and then didn't even bother with Insurrection.


If you look at Worfs bio on this site, you will see that they explain this anamoly in canon as the fact that Worf decided to finish out his current tour of duty in Starfleet before taking up his posision as Klingon Ambasador. why he chose to do so on the Enterprise, instead of DS9, is unknown.

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 5:39 pm

Quote: NCC1701RS @ Aug. 15 2010, 12:18 am

I Read some where online that worf son became an ambassador idk if it was starfleet or for the klingons. But we should all know that worf was faithful to the enterprise crew. In Nemesis i heard he became the First Officer Of The Enterprise Since Data Died.

I dont know what to believe but most of them are rumors and ideas that we can make up for the characters.



Worf didn't become first officer, there is a deleted scene to prove this.

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 5:42 pm

As for the Ambassadorship, Worf became a Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS . Worf tendered his resignation to UFP President Nanietta Bacco, because he wished to return to active duty. Alexander Rozhenko, or Alexander, Son of Worf, House of Martok, then became the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS after Worf resigned.


Is this actual canon or just somthing that the fans thought us to explain the poor research of the writeing staff in Nemesis. If it is canon where is it actually explained?


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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 8:49 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Sep. 08 2010, 5:42 pm

As for the Ambassadorship, Worf became a Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS . Worf tendered his resignation to UFP President Nanietta Bacco, because he wished to return to active duty. Alexander Rozhenko, or Alexander, Son of Worf, House of Martok, then became the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS after Worf resigned.

Is this actual canon or just somthing that the fans thought us to explain the poor research of the writeing staff in Nemesis. If it is canon where is it actually explained?



The part about Worf is in books and on Memory Alpha. The part about Alexander is in books and some is in Memory Alpha. The main one that I got the majority of my information from is [i]Star Trek: Articles of the Federation by Keith R. A. DeCandido [/i]

And before the flaming begins, yes I know that most do not consider the books to be canon.

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Report this Sep. 11 2010, 5:03 pm

Quote: CO_Fowler @ Sep. 08 2010, 8:49 pm

Quote: Camorite @ Sep. 08 2010, 5:42 pm

As for the Ambassadorship, Worf became a Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS . Worf tendered his resignation to UFP President Nanietta Bacco, because he wished to return to active duty. Alexander Rozhenko, or Alexander, Son of Worf, House of Martok, then became the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS after Worf resigned.

Is this actual canon or just somthing that the fans thought us to explain the poor research of the writeing staff in Nemesis. If it is canon where is it actually explained?

The part about Worf is in books and on Memory Alpha. The part about Alexander is in books and some is in Memory Alpha. The main one that I got the majority of my information from is [i]Star Trek: Articles of the Federation by Keith R. A. DeCandido [/i] And before the flaming begins, yes I know that most do not consider the books to be canon.


Correction, its not that most don't consider books canon, its that books are not canon period. Apparently that rule also goes towards techmanuals, and the Star Trek Encyclopedia, which are all based on canon (go figure).

As for the stuff on memory alpha, believe it or not i did do some research on this, and didn't see anything on the page for Worf or on the page for Alexander (though i will admit that i did only skim over them looking for words that would relate to what was said).

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