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UNTRugby

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 5:24 pm

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We finally have a.., well-spoken..President.


This reminds me of the chris rock stand up, listen to this and see if you still wanna call obama "well-spoken"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkqwspFr3D8

chr33355

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 5:34 pm

Quote: UNTRugby @ Nov. 12 2010, 5:18 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Nov. 12 2010, 4:19 pm

> Bush did not avoid Katrina it was a failing on state and local levels that caused a federal failure. If you pay attention it was only New Orleans that had trouble the places that were really hit by the storm didn't have any trouble.
  You forgot to mention that Bush got aid to katrina twice as fast as Clinton got aid to hurricane andrew victims
No i didn't forget I didn't know, but then we didn't have a group just looking for an excuse to make Clinton look like a failure every chance they got either


USS_ODYSSEY

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 9:50 pm

Quote: UNTRugby @ Aug. 14 2010, 6:54 pm

I love that Obama will spend more in 4 years than Bush did in 8, I love that Obama spends more time talking about sports that immigration issues, I love that Obama's approval rating has gone from 70 to 43 % in under a year and a half


I love that we are not engaged in any new wars, I love that our country has it's first African American Leader (who is also white) I love that our econonmy IS rebounding (my stocks under bush dropped by 10k and rebounded and grew under this administration)

I love that we DON'T have Sarah Palin in the White House. I love that we are undoing the damage BUSH caused over 8 years including contributing to the economic woes we face today.

I don't love that the President has few concrete stances on nearly any issue and that the country has no definate leaders. Obama is a vast improvement to George W Bush however he is still a weak leaer. Our country is moving forward. Still Democrats are weak and greedy and the Grand Old Party is devided between Republicans and the supposed fiscally conservative Tea Partiers.

USS_ODYSSEY

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 9:54 pm

OMG are you fricken serious...in commenting on Katrina, now you may retract that one... Go look up the videos recorded the day BEFORE the hurricane by the Associate Press where he acknowledges that New Orleans needed to be evacuated immediately. Also the circumstances of New Orleans that is underwater ...yessss its a city that was underwater from the start. You need to know what the heck you are talking about. The city was overtaken when its levies failed. BOTH Clinton and BUSH Jr. failed to prepare and both knew it was an inevitablitly that the city would fall.

chr33355

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 10:20 pm


I love that we are not engaged in any new wars, I love that our country has it's first African American Leader (who is also white) I love that our econonmy IS rebounding (my stocks under bush dropped by 10k and rebounded and grew under this administration) .  Don't worry Obama will cause the next war by his weakl stance most of our enemies are embolded because they feel Obama will not do anything to stop them.  Second if he is white how can he be African-American oh you mean he is a mutt like 90% of America who really cares.  Actually no the Economy isn't rebounding yes stocks are up but still not back to the record levels of the Bush years, buisnesses are to scared to grow all the signs of a double dip are here not to mention increasing the debt to over half of GDP by 2015.

I love that we DON'T have Sarah Palin in the White House. I love that we are undoing the damage BUSH caused over 8 years including contributing to the economic woes we face today.   Yes because Vice Presidents really have an incredible amount of say in national policy  why do liberals always forget that Palin wasn't running for President.  Actually Obama is not undoing the damage of the Bush years he is ignoring the damage and making new damage thiking he is fixing the old damage.  And no the economic woes we face today are a combination of the Community Reinvestment act, Banks getting Greedy, and Democracts preventing reform of Freddie Mac and fannie mae.

I don't love that the President has few concrete stances on nearly any issue and that the country has no definate leaders. Obama is a vast improvement to George W Bush however he is still a weak leaer. Our country is moving forward. Still Democrats are weak and greedy and the Grand Old Party is devided between Republicans and the supposed fiscally conservative Tea Partiers.  He was an empty suit from the start and now people are realizing he doesn't have a clue what he is doing.


chr33355

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Report this Nov. 12 2010, 10:24 pm

Quote: USS_ODYSSEY @ Nov. 12 2010, 9:54 pm

OMG are you fricken serious...in commenting on Katrina, now you may retract that one... Go look up the videos recorded the day BEFORE the hurricane by the Associate Press where he acknowledges that New Orleans needed to be evacuated immediately. Also the circumstances of New Orleans that is underwater ...yessss its a city that was underwater from the start. You need to know what the heck you are talking about. The city was overtaken when its levies failed. BOTH Clinton and BUSH Jr. failed to prepare and both knew it was an inevitablitly that the city would fall.

Yes Bush acknowledge the city needed to be evacuated and guess what he couldn't do anything about it as that is local jurisdiction. The mayor of New Orleans didn't do anything to evacuate his citizens to many of which waited for someone to save them rather than get out before the storm. As for the levies the money was given to the state to fix them for years now but state and local officials in Louisiana diverted the funds to other projects, not the federal governments fault. Before you start to counter a claim lean what about what you are talking about keeps you from looking stupid

Invader_Wishfire

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Report this Nov. 15 2010, 6:15 pm

Intelligent yes he is intelligent however you are claiming that all 43 presidents before him were not intelligent by your sentence I guess George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were not intelligent according to you.


Yeah, that part didn't make sense. I'm guessing she meant that we finally have another... but even that doesn't make sense, since we've only had one dumb president recently.


Well spoken hmmm no he can't seem to string two words together without a teleprompter so i have to disagree with you on this.


Since he's done it plenty of times already, it's obvious that that conservative generalization isn't quite accurate.


Non-historic are you freaking nuts? How the heck is the first black president non-historic?



No one suggested any such thing. "Histrionic" and "historic" are two different words.


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UNTRugby

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Report this Nov. 16 2010, 5:09 am

Quote: Invader_Wishfire @ Nov. 15 2010, 6:15 pm

Yeah, that part didn't make sense. I'm guessing she meant that we finally have another... but even that doesn't make sense, since we've only had one dumb president recently.



Clinton? I mean how could he think that he wouldnt get caught have sex in the oval office. The POTUS has the least amount of private time of anyone in the world and then lying about it like tons of people didnt already know what was going on.

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Report this Nov. 16 2010, 5:56 am

This is the bill of goods the tea party types sold to the American public:

1) False claim: President Obama raised taxes.

This ignores the fact that the stimulus package included tax cuts for the American people. This claim only begins to approach the truth if you consider paying for insurance premiums as taxes. Apparently, those who take that line feel a certain segment of the public should either be left to die from inadequate mediacla care, or be given free care bought and paid for by other tax payers.

2) False claim: President Obama's policies are fueling spiraling out-of-control deficits.

Under the first full year of the Obama adminstration the size of the deficit was reduced. The total deficit for fiscal year 2009 was $1.42 trillion. Over a quarter of that fiscal year was under the Bush presidency. The deficit is forecast to decline to $1.17 trillion in 2010 - the first full year of the Obama presidency, and $533 billion by 2013

3) False claim: The funds used for the Public-Private Investment Program will never be returned to the taxpayers.

"The eight funds created under the Public-Private Investment Program, or PPIP, reported net internal rates of return averaging 36 percent through Sept. 30, the Treasury Department said in a report this week. That compares with the 10 percent return for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index and 8.2 percent for the BarCap U.S. Aggregate Total Return Index of bonds.

'The first year has been out of the ballpark,' Jeffrey S. Phlegar, who heads the PPIP fund run by New York-based money manager AllianceBernstein LP, said yesterday in a telephone interview.

The Treasury is an equal equity partner in each of the funds and provided debt financing for the $29.4 billion program. The government has gotten $215 million of interest, dividend and other payments, and the funds have more than $1.5 billion in unrealized gains. Under the wider Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, the government has earned $25.2 billion on its investment of $309 billion in banks and insurers, an 8.2 percent return over two years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

'While the program is still in its early stages, we are certainly pleased with its performance for taxpayers thus far,' Treasury spokesman Mark Paustenbach said in an e-mailed statement.'

Money News

It would also be a mistake to conclude that the American public wants a massive repeal of the recently enacted health care reform legislation:

The American Prospect

"If there's one thing Republicans have been clear about, it's their desire to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Even here, though, they don't want to get too specific. As you've no doubt heard many times, a bare majority of the public opposes 'health-care reform' (or 'Obamacare'), while substantial majorities favor almost all the major provisions of the law. Once again, Republicans can win the vague, general argument but not the specific one. Faced with the impossibility of repealing the entire act (which Obama would veto), Republicans have said they'll try to dismantle it piece by piece. Try that, however, and they're suddenly attacking not 'health-care reform' but those particular things people like.

That isn't to say Republicans will inevitably be punished for attempting to repeal the ACA. Pushing repeal will only be dangerous for them if Democrats make it so. Republicans will suffer if they're attacked aggressively for wanting to reopen the Medicare prescription-drug 'doughnut hole,' for wanting to kick young people off their parents' insurance, or for wanting to give the insurance companies the ability to deny coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. Those are all provisions of the ACA that have already gone into effect. The Democrats are hardly guaranteed to win the battle of ACA, but they have a shot if they make the right arguments."

One of the most instructive lessons from the election results may very well come from examining the fate of the so-called "Blue Dog" Democrats - conservative leaning Democrats who broke with Obama on major policy issues:

"...on Tuesday, voters rejected the ... Blue Dog Democrats...The Blue Dog caucus was literally cut in half yesterday, from fifty-four to twenty-six members. Now people can argue whether that is good or bad—but no serious political observer can say the strategy worked...

Of the 34 Democrats who voted against the health care bill in March—24 of them were Blue Dogs—only 12 won reelection."


4)  False Claim: The Community Reinvest Act caused the housing bubble and its subsequent burst. As I have pointed out in numeraous previous threads, this is palpable nonsense. See for example the link below.

http://www.traigerlaw.com/publications/traiger_hinckley_llp_cra_foreclosure_study_1-7-08.pdf


As Americans, we sometimes suffer from too much pluribus and not enough unum. - Arthur Schelsinger, Jr.

UNTRugby

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Report this Nov. 16 2010, 8:04 am

Quote: caltrek2 @ Nov. 16 2010, 5:56 am

>The deficit is forecast to decline to $1.17 trillion in 2010 - the first full year of the Obama presidency, and $533 billion by 2013


the numbers just came out and the deficit is 1.3 trillion the 2nd highest deficit ever. The highest was obamas first year which he was in control of 3/4 of it and in bushs last full year 08 the deficit was only 458 billion. All the spending was obama

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Report this Nov. 28 2010, 12:26 am

Quote: UNTRugby @ Nov. 12 2010, 5:18 pm

Quote: chr33355 @ Nov. 12 2010, 4:19 pm

Bush did not avoid Katrina it was a failing on state and local levels that caused a federal failure. If you pay attention it was only New Orleans that had trouble the places that were really hit by the storm didn't have any trouble.
You forgot to mention that Bush got aid to katrina twice as fast as Clinton got aid to hurricane andrew victims


Bush said it himself he took too long to intervene in Katrina and he DID, I don't hate the Repuplican people I dislike the hatred that they have for President Obama, calling him names, insulting his intelligence, ASKING WHETHER OR NOT HE'S A U.S CITIZEN, how stupid is that, then out of the "Conservative Movement" came this Tea Party crap which is nothing but another version of the KKK, to spread FEAR AND HATE to destroy Obama and they must be stopped.

UNTRugby

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 6:04 am

Quote: DammitJim6200 @ Nov. 28 2010, 12:26 am

I dislike the hatred that they have for President Obama, calling him names, insulting his intelligence,


the democrats did this for 8 years with bush, cry me a river

chr33355

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 7:21 am

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Did the residents of Nagasaki and Hiroshima stop blaming atomic weapons for how shitty their cities were still getting along two years after they were dropped? No? Then why the hell should we suddenly stop blaming Bush and Republicans for their disasterous policies created in the last decade that are still obviously having repercussions?

 

Come on people, let's use some common sense. I know dammitjim looks like a buffoon and makes democrats look bad (well, ones like him anyways) but countering his arguments with more idiocy doesn't do much for your position, either.

Simple because there is no proof that the Republican policies have caused any of the economic woes. Just saying Bush policies caused the troubles do not do it for me. The real cause was people spending more than they made and government guaranteeing people homes who couldn't afford them.

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 8:17 am

Obama needed 12 stitches in his lip after a pick up basketball game? I didn't know Dick Cheney played basketball................

Let the bridges I burn light the way. You are special, just like everybody else. Calling an illegal alien an ‘undocumented immigrant’ is like calling a drug dealer an ‘unlicensed pharmacist’

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Report this Nov. 29 2010, 3:19 pm

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Did the residents of Nagasaki and Hiroshima stop blaming atomic weapons for how shitty their cities were still getting along two years after they were dropped? No? Then why the hell should we suddenly stop blaming Bush and Republicans for their disasterous policies created in the last decade that are still obviously having repercussions?

 

Come on people, let's use some common sense. I know dammitjim looks like a buffoon and makes democrats look bad (well, ones like him anyways) but countering his arguments with more idiocy doesn't do much for your position, either.



No I'd be a Buffoon if I PRAISE a political party (REPUBLICAN) Where their only ideology is "take down a President" they're totally Clueless on how to stimulate the economy and the only True conservatives that represent Repubilcans appear to be a cowardly wind bag like Rush limbaugh and the BARBIE DOLL "buffoon" Sarah Palin, yeah, I'm waiting on your "common sense" bud.

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