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darmokattanagra

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Report this Nov. 09 2012, 6:37 pm

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 09 2012, 4:17 pm

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>The definition of marriage has been known for thousands of years - you're just trying to redefine it.

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http://bobcargill.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/biblical-marriage.jpg


Which definition are you refering to?

darmokattanagra

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Report this Nov. 09 2012, 6:45 pm

Quote: VulcanKat @ Nov. 09 2012, 3:49 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 11:33 am

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>Again, you're twisting these issues into an attack on your religion. It is your side that wants to amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. It is your side that wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.

>No one on the left is trying to ban Christianity.

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No you're just trying to change it. According to that logic, we have to send our children to get an abortion if the government deems it legal and we have to pay for it too. Not everything should be imported from China. This has everything to do with religious rights. Please don't go around telling us what to do. If you want to get your stuff done elsewhere you have that option and this has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade.


What the hell are you talking about?

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 09 2012, 6:53 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 6:37 pm

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 09 2012, 4:17 pm

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>The definition of marriage has been known for thousands of years - you're just trying to redefine it.

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Which definition are you refering to?

Funny...  I'd suggest you read the bible to see how God defined it in Eden.... but you might take offense at that suggestion.


The interesting thing about your chart is that it doesn't differentiate what people do and what God said to do.  Completely different things.  The Bible is full of examples of people doing things that He didn't want.


Oh.... and I noticed that even in your chart.... it didn't show same gender relationships..... (anyone remember what God did to two towns with that problem?)


 


Now, personally, I really don't care what you do in your bedroom - just don't force it upon me and don't make me support it.  And don't use it to harm others.


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Report this Nov. 09 2012, 6:59 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 6:45 pm

Quote: VulcanKat @ Nov. 09 2012, 3:49 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 11:33 am

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>Again, you're twisting these issues into an attack on your religion. It is your side that wants to amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. It is your side that wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.

>No one on the left is trying to ban Christianity.

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No you're just trying to change it. According to that logic, we have to send our children to get an abortion if the government deems it legal and we have to pay for it too. Not everything should be imported from China. This has everything to do with religious rights. Please don't go around telling us what to do. If you want to get your stuff done elsewhere you have that option and this has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade.

What the hell are you talking about?



 


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VulcanKat

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Report this Nov. 09 2012, 7:33 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 6:45 pm

Quote: VulcanKat @ Nov. 09 2012, 3:49 pm

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 09 2012, 11:33 am

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>Again, you're twisting these issues into an attack on your religion. It is your side that wants to amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. It is your side that wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.

>No one on the left is trying to ban Christianity.

>

 

No you're just trying to change it. According to that logic, we have to send our children to get an abortion if the government deems it legal and we have to pay for it too. Not everything should be imported from China. This has everything to do with religious rights. Please don't go around telling us what to do. If you want to get your stuff done elsewhere you have that option and this has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade.

What the hell are you talking about?


 


I was showing what the mandate amounts to-comparing it to the parents being forced by the goverment to have an abortion because it's tantamount to that. Regardless of your opinion on birth control, the government is interjecting itself into a religion to tell it what to do. Catholic hospitals are part of the Catholic religion because it's part of Catholic society and therefore runs according to the rules of the Catholic church. It is private. So, people can get their pills elsewhere it doesn't need to be funded by the Catholic church. 

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 10 2012, 9:56 am

Anyone see the news dump Friday evening?  CIA Director General Petraeus resigned.  What I find that's real interesting is that the FBI knew about this over a month ago... but the administration chose to wait until after the election and just before he was to be testifying before Congress next week....


Wow.... that's convenient timing....

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Report this Nov. 10 2012, 10:23 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 10 2012, 9:56 am

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>Anyone see the news dump Friday evening?  CIA Director General Petraeus resigned.  What I find that's real interesting is that the FBI knew about this over a month ago... but the administration chose to wait until after the election and just before he was to be testifying before Congress next week....

>Wow.... that's convenient timing....

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Sounds fishy to me. He was supposed to testify to congress next week about bengazi, and suddenly he was pulled out. I may be wrong, but it still sounds fishy,


"Borg. Sounds Swedish."

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Report this Nov. 10 2012, 11:17 am

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Nov. 10 2012, 10:23 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 10 2012, 9:56 am

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>Anyone see the news dump Friday evening?  CIA Director General Petraeus resigned.  What I find that's real interesting is that the FBI knew about this over a month ago... but the administration chose to wait until after the election and just before he was to be testifying before Congress next week....

>Wow.... that's convenient timing....

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Sounds fishy to me. He was supposed to testify to congress next week about bengazi, and suddenly he was pulled out. I may be wrong, but it still sounds fishy,

Yep - I don't believe in coincidences.


 


Timed it after the election but before the scheduled testimony....


 


I fully suspect that if he doesn't come in and testify, he'll be get a subpoena.


FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 10 2012, 11:38 am

Wow.... talk about voter fraud (which AG Holder says doesn't happen....)


 


In St. Lucie County, Florida, only one precinct had less that 113% turnout....  According to the Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”


 


But of course... to the ProRegressives, that's okay as long as their person gets the office.


 


Now that's what I call a seriously coordinated attack to get those numbers.... but why in the world did they think that people were too stupid to not see that > 100% proves voter fraud???  Oh, that's right.....  ObamaZombies.


darmokattanagra

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Report this Nov. 10 2012, 8:54 pm

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 09 2012, 6:53 pm

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>Funny...  I'd suggest you read the bible to see how God defined it in Eden.... but you might take offense at that suggestion.

>The interesting thing about your chart is that it doesn't differentiate what people do and what God said to do.  Completely different things.  The Bible is full of examples of people doing things that He didn't want.

>Oh.... and I noticed that even in your chart.... it didn't show same gender relationships..... (anyone remember what God did to two towns with that problem?)

>Now, personally, I really don't care what you do in your bedroom - just don't force it upon me and don't make me support it.  And don't use it to harm others.

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The point of the chart is that marriage has been defined many different ways throughout the years. It doesn't matter what definition your God approves of because we're not all Christians and this is not a theocracy.

VulcanKat

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Report this Nov. 11 2012, 2:46 am

Actually there was more to it than that. Rules in the bible were meant to make a person's life easier...a guidebook if you will. The reason the bible is against fornication, which gay relationships fall under, because of the end result of said situations. For example, having to deal with becoming pregnant without any type of support...during those days you were disowned and stoned even though disowning and stoning are not condoned in the bible. That's a completely man made invention. Plus there was no birth control and whether or not that should be legal now is debatable based on when life actually begins. I'm not debating whether or not it should be legal...just saying. Plus, there is no cure for aides yet. Do I think it's wrong for two people of the same sex to fall in love? No, I actually don't. Lust maybe a sin but not love.  And the bible doesn't say falling in love with someone of the same sex is wrong either. From what a priest once preach, it seems that abortion during that period (it existed then) was the reason Sadom and Gemorah were burnt, actually. That and it become a place of immorality where it was common practice for gangs to rape visitors and who knows what else was going on. As for marriage, I'm not arguing with my church. I'm taking no stance on that at all.

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Report this Nov. 11 2012, 8:40 am

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 10 2012, 8:54 pm

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 09 2012, 6:53 pm

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>Funny...  I'd suggest you read the bible to see how God defined it in Eden.... but you might take offense at that suggestion.

>The interesting thing about your chart is that it doesn't differentiate what people do and what God said to do.  Completely different things.  The Bible is full of examples of people doing things that He didn't want.

>Oh.... and I noticed that even in your chart.... it didn't show same gender relationships..... (anyone remember what God did to two towns with that problem?)

>Now, personally, I really don't care what you do in your bedroom - just don't force it upon me and don't make me support it.  And don't use it to harm others.

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The point of the chart is that marriage has been defined many different ways throughout the years. It doesn't matter what definition your God approves of because we're not all Christians and this is not a theocracy.

I've already said that this isn't a theocracy.... but that doesn't mean religion has to be attacked and religious people forced to support things that are against their religion.


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Report this Nov. 11 2012, 8:42 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 10 2012, 11:17 am

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Nov. 10 2012, 10:23 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 10 2012, 9:56 am

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>Anyone see the news dump Friday evening?  CIA Director General Petraeus resigned.  What I find that's real interesting is that the FBI knew about this over a month ago... but the administration chose to wait until after the election and just before he was to be testifying before Congress next week....

>Wow.... that's convenient timing....

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Sounds fishy to me. He was supposed to testify to congress next week about bengazi, and suddenly he was pulled out. I may be wrong, but it still sounds fishy,

Yep - I don't believe in coincidences.

 

Timed it after the election but before the scheduled testimony....

 

I fully suspect that if he doesn't come in and testify, he'll be get a subpoena.

More info from an FBI Agent:


 


[T]he White House, with concurrence by the FBI and Justice Department, held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election.


FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged.


“The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.”


Michael Kortan, the FBI’s assistant director for public affairs, said he had no comment.


FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 12 2012, 12:42 pm

Anyone else ever look at the regulations.gov website?  Last Friday, Obama dumped 165 new regulations and notifications.  In the past 90 days, it has posted 6,125 regulations and notices – an average of 68 a day.


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Report this Nov. 12 2012, 12:45 pm

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