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The President Obama appreciation thread

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 06 2012, 8:46 am

 



 


Think of it this way.... If all this debt were dumped on all Americans under the age of 18, their biggest expenditure is not college (~ $130,468 for 4 years at a private college) or even a house (median price of $173,100)..... it the debt the politicians spent.... $218,676 and rising!    [edited for clarity]


darmokattanagra

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Report this Nov. 06 2012, 10:23 am

Your graph says debt is currently $53,378 per person and the small text at the bottom says that it will be $75,000 per person by 2022.


Where are you getting this $218,676 number from?

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Report this Nov. 06 2012, 10:40 am

Quote: darmokattanagra @ Nov. 06 2012, 10:23 am

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>Your graph says debt is currently $53,378 per person and the small text at the bottom says that it will be $75,000 per person by 2022.

>Where are you getting this $218,676 number from?

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Sorry, I didn't word that right....


The $53K number is all Americans, regardless of age.


The larger number is basically saying that if we were dump the debt on only those Americans under the age of 18 (who've never voted,) that would be their (current) number.  Basically, it's just another way of looking at the amount of debt we keep pushing to the next generations.


 


As Thomas Jefferson warned: "We must not let our rulers load us down with perpetual debt."


“I say, the earth belongs to each of these generations during its course, fully and in its own right. The second generation receives it clear of the debts and incumbrances of the first, the third of the second, and so on. For if the first could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not to the living generation. Then, no generation can contract debts greater than may be paid during the course of its own existence.”  -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Madison

FleetAdmiral_BamBam

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Report this Nov. 06 2012, 8:57 pm

So who will Obama blame for the next four years?

Khaaan!!!!

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 7:43 am

I appreciated him with my vote yesterday and I am glad to say...4 more years!

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 8:13 am

Quote: Khaaan!!!! @ Nov. 07 2012, 7:43 am

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>I appreciated him with my vote yesterday and I am glad to say...4 more years!

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So let's get this straight....


Obama won in 2008 without having any executive experience at all and complaining about the Constitution....  and won re-election after four years of making things worse and ignoring the Constitution.


One thing I have to say, the gubmunt edewkayshun & indocktrunayshun cystduuhhmm is working exactly as planned.

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 1:42 pm

I am glad the tea party took a bath in this election. their uneducated rantings will now live on only in the fox news viewer  (and sadly message boards)  because the republican party will releive itself of this anchor around the partys neck after their thumping last  night. It is interesting to see what corporate america and fox will come up with to dupe people who cherish ideology over facts next time.


"Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing."

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 1:57 pm

Quote: Khaaan!!!! @ Nov. 07 2012, 1:42 pm

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>I am glad the tea party took a bath in this election. their uneducated rantings will now live on only in the fox news viewer  (and sadly message boards)  because the republican party will releive itself of this anchor around the partys neck after their thumping last  night. It is interesting to see what corporate america and fox will come up with to dupe people who cherish ideology over facts next time.

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Everyone says the Tea Party is uninformed. But actually, the tea partiers know the constitution better than most of congress. What are they uninformed about? They didn't get the memo that we are all socialists now? If anyone is uneducated, it's the people who watch the mainstream news... they hear about stupid namecalling, but don't hear any of the real facts. If Obama does something bad, they don't cover it. If a republican does, they go crazy. The people who belive them are really uninformed.


"Borg. Sounds Swedish."

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 6:45 pm

Quote: Sehlat123 @ Nov. 07 2012, 1:57 pm

Quote: Khaaan!!!! @ Nov. 07 2012, 1:42 pm

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>I am glad the tea party took a bath in this election. their uneducated rantings will now live on only in the fox news viewer  (and sadly message boards)  because the republican party will releive itself of this anchor around the partys neck after their thumping last  night. It is interesting to see what corporate america and fox will come up with to dupe people who cherish ideology over facts next time.

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Everyone says the Tea Party is uninformed. But actually, the tea partiers know the constitution better than most of congress. What are they uninformed about? They didn't get the memo that we are all socialists now? If anyone is uneducated, it's the people who watch the mainstream news... they hear about stupid namecalling, but don't hear any of the real facts. If Obama does something bad, they don't cover it. If a republican does, they go crazy. The people who belive them are really uninformed.

Plus Tea Party members buy a lot of history books and read original material.  At least they try to critically think through things (although a lot of them still want to keep entitlements.)


And you notice that the ProRegressives say that Tea Party people don't know the facts, but can't really identify the things that are factually wrong - only make vague accusations.... while the Tea Party actually reference Obama's own words and use reference material.  I always love it when I reference something that Obama actually said and provide a video and the ProRegressives here reply saying that I don't know the facts and that it didn't happen.


 


But that's part of the ProRegressive mindset - Anybody remember when Obama and Romney were debating and Obama lied about Romney's Op-Ed about the bailout?  The next day, it was proven over and over (even by MSNBC) that Romney was right and Obama was wrong.... And later on, Obama, in a speech in Ohio, continued with the same lie even after being proven wrong.

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 6:55 pm

I'm watching a report on the Benghazi fiasco/coverup.... according to a retired CIA officer (who's a Middle East and counterterrorism expert) and a few others investigating this, it appears that Obama was running guns to al-Queda and the Muslim Brotherhood.  And during the attack, the White House had a live feed from on premise cameras and a drone in the sky - the administration stopped help from coming.  (Standard Operatiing Prodedure is to send in the Quick Reaction Force, who could have been there in about an hour, but was ordered not to go.)  If there's any truth in this, this will make the Iran Contra and Watergate look like small change.


 


If this is even remotely true.... will Congress have enough guts to expose Obama?  (Yea, I know that under Reid, the Senate will never convict Obama, even if he is guilty.)

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Report this Nov. 07 2012, 10:24 pm

Anyone else see this?

Obama appoints Thomas Pickering to investigate the Benghazi incident.... but Mr. Pickering sits on the boards of the American Iranian Council and the National Iranian American Council.....  Oh, and he also has ties to CAIR who are unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation trial — the largest terror-funding trial in U.S. history.

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Report this Nov. 08 2012, 5:48 am

So, the political show is over. The entertainers can go sleep now. 

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Report this Nov. 08 2012, 5:50 am

I guess no one considers religious liberty of any importance.

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Report this Nov. 08 2012, 6:38 am

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>I guess no one considers religious liberty of any importance.

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Well... not the MESSiah and his zombies....

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Report this Nov. 08 2012, 8:53 am

Quote: FleetAdmiral_BamBam @ Nov. 08 2012, 6:38 am

Quote: VulcanKat @ Nov. 08 2012, 5:50 am

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>I guess no one considers religious liberty of any importance.

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Well... not the MESSiah and his zombies....


"His anti-Biblical views - he believes in abortion and redefining marriage.  He tries to frame it as getting the government out of our personal choices, but the USA was built on Biblical principles.  I'm definitely not saying that this should be a theocracy, but that doesn't mean we "transform" America and throw out our founding principles."


You're the one who wants to impose your religious views on the rest of the country.

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